Numbers that testify to the 3 witnesses

[Peter John]

1Jn5v6-8 (NASB)
This is the One who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with water only but with the water and with the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.
7 For there are three that testify:
8 the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.
(the three are to the one Interlinear Bible)

These 3 witnesses types are found throughout the Bible. The highest being God who was, God who is, & God to come, in the Infinite Realm, which is the true realm, (Spirit witness) whilst these created realms of heaven and earth (blood and water witnesses) are
finite.

What I love about biblical Gematria, is that it testifies to God’s order of things, which in numbers, are similar to God, being the same, yesterday, today and forever. Numbers cannot be debated, unlike words are, hence 1000s of denominations argue their own doctrine and interpretations.

There are lots of biblical numbers, I would like to focus on 3,7,37 and 153.

3 being key to the 3 witnesses. Let’s see what happens when you cube numbers; 3=3x3x3=27 then cube 27=2x2x2=8 and 7x7x7=343+8=351
Lastly 351=3x3x3=27 and 5x5x5=125 and 1x1x1=1+27+125=153 which is a narcissistic number that cannot be cubed further!
Some of you may recognise 153 from Jn21, as the number of fish caught. To show how God’s hand is at work here in arranging our lives (as well as these fish). You will see that 7 of the 12 disciples went fishing that day, so back to the maths 7x153=1071
Let’s go to a lot of folks favourite chapter, Rom8v17 where we are joint heirs, or fellow heirs with Christ. Anyway, it’s one Greek word; sugkleronomoi in Gematria =1071
Not only that, if you add the words of 153 in Jn21 =2590=70x37
Jesus in Greek =888=24x37
Christ in Greek =1480=40x37
Some may already know Gen1v1=2701=73x37 along with the 7 Hebrew words there that have 23 combinations of words multiplied together x37.
So, I hear you ask, where does 37 come from? There are 37 blueprints called “Quantum electrical fields” (ie electrons, quarks, gluons etc) that make up all the particles of the universe.
There is much more that can also be added, but my finger is worn out!
God is in control of everything!
Peter

 

[Leaf473]

1Jn5v6-8 (NASB)
This is the One who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with water only but with the water and with the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.
7 For there are three that testify:
8 the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.
(the three are to the one Interlinear Bible)

These 3 witnesses types are found throughout the Bible. The highest being God who was, God who is, & God to come, in the Infinite Realm, which is the true realm, (Spirit witness) whilst these created realms of heaven and earth (blood and water witnesses) are
finite.

What I love about biblical Gematria, is that it testifies to God’s order of things, which in numbers, are similar to God, being the same, yesterday, today and forever. Numbers cannot be debated, unlike words are, hence 1000s of denominations argue their own doctrine and interpretations.

There are lots of biblical numbers, I would like to focus on 3,7,37 and 153.

3 being key to the 3 witnesses. Let’s see what happens when you cube numbers; 3=3x3x3=27 then cube 27=2x2x2=8 and 7x7x7=343+8=351
Lastly 351=3x3x3=27 and 5x5x5=125 and 1x1x1=1+27+125=153 which is a narcissistic number that cannot be cubed further!
Some of you may recognise 153 from Jn21, as the number of fish caught. To show how God’s hand is at work here in arranging our lives (as well as these fish). You will see that 7 of the 12 disciples went fishing that day, so back to the maths 7x153=1071
Let’s go to a lot of folks favourite chapter, Rom8v17 where we are joint heirs, or fellow heirs with Christ. Anyway, it’s one Greek word; sugkleronomoi in Gematria =1071
Not only that, if you add the words of 153 in Jn21 =2590=70x37
Jesus in Greek =888=24x37
Christ in Greek =1480=40x37
Some may already know Gen1v1=2701=73x37 along with the 7 Hebrew words there that have 23 combinations of words multiplied together x37.
So, I hear you ask, where does 37 come from? There are 37 blueprints called “Quantum electrical fields” (ie electrons, quarks, gluons etc) that make up all the particles of the universe.
There is much more that can also be added, but my finger is worn out!
God is in control of everything!
Peter

Hi

Looks like you have some interesting ideas there, but I'm finding the equations hard to follow.

When you say,
"3=3x3x3=27"

Do you mean
3^3=3x3x3=27
?

3^3 is the general "internet" way of saying 3 to the power of 3 or 3 times 3 times 3.

 

[Amittai]

I think these are a sort of mnemonics in Nature and not superstitious. Anytime we can't see how they would work, doesn't matter.

According to p. 35 of 50 mathematical ideas by Tony Crilly (Quercus, 2007) (if I understand this - it is a difficult book to understand) one William Hamilton managed to add and multiply using four- and eight- "dimensional" complex / imaginary / Cayley numbers: a kind of visible spectrum of instances where this works. I used to think that eight being two cubed, gave us a "three" here, but perhaps that is not really relevant to the thread.

 

[Leaf473]

I think these are a sort of mnemonics in Nature and not superstitious. Anytime we can't see how they would work, doesn't matter.

According to p. 35 of 50 mathematical ideas by Tony Crilly (Quercus, 2007) (if I understand this - it is a difficult book to understand) one William Hamilton managed to add and multiply using four- and eight- "dimensional" complex / imaginary / Cayley numbers: a kind of visible spectrum of instances where this works. I used to think that eight being two cubed, gave us a "three" here, but perhaps that is not really relevant to the thread.

Well, I think there are a number of things in nature that point to God in creation.

Like, you can't make a square in which both the sides and the diagonal can be measured in whole numbers. There is mystery there.

Is that the kind of thing you're talking about?

 

[Amittai]

I think the basic form of number is ordinal; and that other developments are analogies or (in cases of relation) part analogies; and that analogies are everywhere; and that is as much philosophy, science etc as theology . . .

Reputedly 318 = the number of Eliezer (Gen 14) (employed as check when copying manuscripts)?

 

[ViaCrucis]

1Jn5v6-8 (NASB)
This is the One who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with water only but with the water and with the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.
7 For there are three that testify:
8 the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.
(the three are to the one Interlinear Bible)

These 3 witnesses types are found throughout the Bible. The highest being God who was, God who is, & God to come, in the Infinite Realm, which is the true realm, (Spirit witness) whilst these created realms of heaven and earth (blood and water witnesses) are
finite.

What I love about biblical Gematria, is that it testifies to God’s order of things, which in numbers, are similar to God, being the same, yesterday, today and forever. Numbers cannot be debated, unlike words are, hence 1000s of denominations argue their own doctrine and interpretations.

There are lots of biblical numbers, I would like to focus on 3,7,37 and 153.

3 being key to the 3 witnesses. Let’s see what happens when you cube numbers; 3=3x3x3=27 then cube 27=2x2x2=8 and 7x7x7=343+8=351
Lastly 351=3x3x3=27 and 5x5x5=125 and 1x1x1=1+27+125=153 which is a narcissistic number that cannot be cubed further!
Some of you may recognise 153 from Jn21, as the number of fish caught. To show how God’s hand is at work here in arranging our lives (as well as these fish). You will see that 7 of the 12 disciples went fishing that day, so back to the maths 7x153=1071
Let’s go to a lot of folks favourite chapter, Rom8v17 where we are joint heirs, or fellow heirs with Christ. Anyway, it’s one Greek word; sugkleronomoi in Gematria =1071
Not only that, if you add the words of 153 in Jn21 =2590=70x37
Jesus in Greek =888=24x37
Christ in Greek =1480=40x37
Some may already know Gen1v1=2701=73x37 along with the 7 Hebrew words there that have 23 combinations of words multiplied together x37.
So, I hear you ask, where does 37 come from? There are 37 blueprints called “Quantum electrical fields” (ie electrons, quarks, gluons etc) that make up all the particles of the universe.
There is much more that can also be added, but my finger is worn out!
God is in control of everything!
Peter

I'll be honest, this all sounds like new age woo mixed with a bit of quantum mysticism thrown in for good measure.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Peter John]

1Jn5v6-8 (NASB)
This is the One who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with water only but with the water and with the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.
7 For there are three that testify:
8 the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.
(the three are to the one Interlinear Bible)

These 3 witnesses types are found throughout the Bible. The highest being God who was, God who is, & God to come, in the Infinite Realm, which is the true realm, (Spirit witness) whilst these created realms of heaven and earth (blood and water witnesses) are
finite.

What I love about biblical Gematria, is that it testifies to God’s order of things, which in numbers, are similar to God, being the same, yesterday, today and forever. Numbers cannot be debated, unlike words are, hence 1000s of denominations argue their own doctrine and interpretations.

There are lots of biblical numbers, I would like to focus on 3,7,37 and 153.

3 being key to the 3 witnesses. Let’s see what happens when you cube numbers; 3=3x3x3=27 then cube 27=2x2x2=8 and 7x7x7=343+8=351
Lastly 351=3x3x3=27 and 5x5x5=125 and 1x1x1=1+27+125=153 which is a narcissistic number that cannot be cubed further!
Some of you may recognise 153 from Jn21, as the number of fish caught. To show how God’s hand is at work here in arranging our lives (as well as these fish). You will see that 7 of the 12 disciples went fishing that day, so back to the maths 7x153=1071
Let’s go to a lot of folks favourite chapter, Rom8v17 where we are joint heirs, or fellow heirs with Christ. Anyway, it’s one Greek word; sugkleronomoi in Gematria =1071
Not only that, if you add the words of 153 in Jn21 =2590=70x37
Jesus in Greek =888=24x37
Christ in Greek =1480=40x37
Some may already know Gen1v1=2701=73x37 along with the 7 Hebrew words there that have 23 combinations of words multiplied together x37.
So, I hear you ask, where does 37 come from? There are 37 blueprints called “Quantum electrical fields” (ie electrons, quarks, gluons etc) that make up all the particles of the universe.
There is much more that can also be added, but my finger is worn out!
God is in control of everything!
Peter

Another great example is of Gematria of names. Below shows the 22 generations from Adam to Israel (formerly Jacob), & notice Abraham (formerly Abram). The result of the whole house of Israel totals exactly 7,000, representing completeness!