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Politicians often make campaign promises they don't intend to keep or know they can't achieve. The difference with President Trump is that his supporters forgive him when he fails to fulfill his promises and target those who question his campaign pledges, while other politicians usually face consequences for broken promises.

Anyone who believed President Trump could end the Russo-Ukrainian war immediately lacks understanding of history, Russia, or international diplomacy. This isn't President Trump's fault; some Americans are simply gullible. Similarly, those who voted for him expecting the President to lower inflation misunderstood the role.
 
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Anyone who believed President Trump could end the Russo-Ukrainian war immediately lacks understanding of history, Russia, or international diplomacy.

They lack understanding of Ukrainian extremism, Russian mistrust of the USA, European involvement and the intere$t$ of certain people in powerful positions to keep the war going.
 
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They lack understanding of Ukrainian extremism, Russian mistrust of the USA, European involvement and the intere$t$ of certain people in powerful positions to keep the war going.

I don't watch Hollywood conspiracy theory movies, but what you say would make a good Hollywood sci-fi movie.
 
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Politicians often make campaign promises they don't intend to keep or know they can't achieve. The difference with President Trump is that his supporters forgive him when he fails to fulfill his promises and target those who question his campaign pledges, while other politicians usually face consequences for broken promises.

Anyone who believed President Trump could end the Russo-Ukrainian war immediately lacks understanding of history, Russia, or international diplomacy. This isn't President Trump's fault; some Americans are simply gullible. Similarly, those who voted for him expecting the President to lower inflation misunderstood the role.
I agree with your first paragraph.

As to the second, while it is true that Trump is not responsible for the gullibility of a proportion of the electorate, he is responsible for taking cynical advantage of that gullibility, then doubling down on it by pretending his claim was a joke. He then compounded his contempt for his supporters by carrying out actions related to the education system that are likely to increase, rather than decrease gullibility.
 
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"Well, I said that figuratively, and I said that as an exaggeration, because to make a point," Trump said.

"Obviously, people know that when I said that, it was said in jest, but it was also said that it will be ended," he added.


And what point would that be? That he can end wars in 1 day, 1 month or 1 year? Any answer is an exaggeration of his abilities.
 
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I agree with your first paragraph.

As to the second, while it is true that Trump is not responsible for the gullibility of a proportion of the electorate, he is responsible for taking cynical advantage of that gullibility, then doubling down on it by pretending his claim was a joke. He then compounded his contempt for his supporters by carrying out actions related to the education system that are likely to increase, rather than decrease gullibility.

Every politician take advantage of voters' gullibility, but most often politicians face consequences when they break campaign promises. This is why many politicians do not act as openly as President Trump because they cannot get away with it as he does. While most politicians face repercussions for changing their stance, President Trump's supporters tend to forgive him regardless, making it easier for him to make outrages promise to his supporters compared to other politicians. If other politicians were forgiven for their lies or broken promises in the same way, they might behave similarly to President Trump.
 
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I don't watch Hollywood conspiracy theory movies, but what you say would make a good Hollywood sci-fi movie.
Eh, sub par, it left out the juiciest bits by forgetting the bio labs and large scale child organ trafficking.
 
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Every politician take advantage of voters' gullibility,
That is your flawed premise that leads to your flawed conclusion. Unless, of course, you were employing Trumpian bombast and actually meant "Many politicians take advantage of voter's gullibility".
 
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Every politician take advantage of voters' gullibility, but most often politicians face consequences when they break campaign promises. This is why many politicians do not act as openly as President Trump because they cannot get away with it as he does. While most politicians face repercussions for changing their stance, President Trump's supporters tend to forgive him regardless, making it easier for him to make outrages promise to his supporters compared to other politicians. If other politicians were forgiven for their lies or broken promises in the same way, they might behave similarly to President Trump.
I sometimes say the maga commitment is signed in blood. Seems that way sometimes.
 
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Of course it was an exaggeration. Also a foreign war that doesn't demonstrably affect Americans, probably wasn't very high on the list for most.
A lot of people right here said ending the Ukr and Gaza wars was a significant motivation for voting Trump.

Though I do think inflation and economic uncertainty was the number one issue by far.
 
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Of course it was an exaggeration. Also a foreign war that doesn't demonstrably affect Americans, probably wasn't very high on the list for most.

Thousands are dying, millions are displaced, and millions of children are living in fear. Does this situation not affect Americans? Has American society lost a sense of humanity?
 
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The bottom line is that Trump's skill lie in being able to sell snow to Eskimos. He is a salesman. He clearly has the ability to sell the most outrageous 'products' to people even after his 'products' have been shown multiple times to be gross exaggerations and barefaced lies often actually harmful to the target market.

America today seems to be the confluence of a genuinely gifted salesman and a particularly gullible America looking for (and believing in) quick and easy solutions to complicated problems they do not understand beyond the specific impact it has on them (the screw you I got mine American Dream).
 
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....America today seems to be the confluence of a genuinely gifted salesman and a particularly gullible America looking for (and believing in) quick and easy solutions to complicated problems they do not understand beyond the specific impact it has on them (the screw you I got mine American Dream).....
Nailed it. That is America these days.
 
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He told them what they wanted to hear and they believed him. No one gets a pardon on Trump. We’ve seen this movie before and they brought him back. He has no reason to pretend anymore. We’re stuck with him.

~bella
 
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A lot of people right here said ending the Ukr and Gaza wars was a significant motivation for voting Trump.

Though I do think inflation and economic uncertainty was the number one issue by far.
And border control.
 
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