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<blockquote data-quote="Sanoy" data-source="post: 71517442" data-attributes="member: 397693"><p>In this "nothing" state the universe already exists as energy it's just in a perfect equilibrium of unchanged timelessness.</p><p></p><p>Krauss is a proponent of this and this is what he defines nothing as. “Nothing is really a bubbling, boiling brew of virtual particles.” He calls it nothing with a purpose in mind, and that purpose is to get by the logical problem of nihilo nihil fit, out of nothing comes nothing. He gets by it through deceit not reality. Much of what you will find in cosmogeny is like this.</p><p></p><p>Science is the study of the natural world. It will not and cannot give God as it's explanation because God is not natural. They will give you all sorts of theories but remember that they aren't good theories just because science believes them. Science believes many of their theories not because they are good theories but because they are the only theories they can believe due to the definition of science. For example a 1 to a googolplex chance is a really bad theory but it's the best of available theory for science because they are not allowed, by definition, to consider God as an explanation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sanoy, post: 71517442, member: 397693"] In this "nothing" state the universe already exists as energy it's just in a perfect equilibrium of unchanged timelessness. Krauss is a proponent of this and this is what he defines nothing as. “Nothing is really a bubbling, boiling brew of virtual particles.” He calls it nothing with a purpose in mind, and that purpose is to get by the logical problem of nihilo nihil fit, out of nothing comes nothing. He gets by it through deceit not reality. Much of what you will find in cosmogeny is like this. Science is the study of the natural world. It will not and cannot give God as it's explanation because God is not natural. They will give you all sorts of theories but remember that they aren't good theories just because science believes them. Science believes many of their theories not because they are good theories but because they are the only theories they can believe due to the definition of science. For example a 1 to a googolplex chance is a really bad theory but it's the best of available theory for science because they are not allowed, by definition, to consider God as an explanation. [/QUOTE]
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