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I am an Atheist, both my parents are Atheists as well.
I was raised free from all religion, in a "do what thou wilt"-sense.
In fact, my parents often slanted people for being religious calling them "stupid" or "ignorant", I stand for freedom in belief and I'm convinced that there is no God, and there never was.


My question is, if there actually is a God, will my not believing in him, despite leading a good life where I have never done any harm to anyone, send me to Hell?
 

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Not necessarily.

The great majority of Protestant Christians would disagree and say that you will, but they forget two very important things.

1) As Christians it is not our job to judge and especially is not our job to dictate who goes where, doesn't go, etc etc etc.

2) God allows Grace. What this means is that God knows all the circumstances of your life and holds people to varying levels of accountability. Since Christians are supposed to know how to act, behave, etc; we shall be held to a high standard when judgment comes and God will hold people to their own levels of accountability.

From this we can surmise that you at least have a very fair trial :)
 
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I am an Atheist, both my parents are Atheists as well.
I was raised free from all religion, in a "do what thou wilt"-sense.
In fact, my parents often slanted people for being religious calling them "stupid" or "ignorant", I stand for freedom in belief and I'm convinced that there is no God, and there never was.

My question is, if there actually is a God, will my not believing in him, despite leading a good life where I have never done any harm to anyone, send me to Hell?
Yes, the Bible indicates that your unbelief will send you to Hell - no matter what the Eastern Orthodox religion contends. There are a few things I should clarify for you, however:

1. Your good isn't good enough. God's standard for what is acceptable to Him isn't ours. He sets Himself as the standard and holds us to it. God is perfectly righteous and holy; we are, even at our very best, far, far from God's perfection.
2. As far as God is concerned your atheism is false and eternally destructive. If you have ever attempted to persuade others to your atheistic worldview, you stand before God guilty of the great harm of purveying a belief that leads people into eternal damnation.
3. While your upbringing has encouraged you to deny God exists, you have all of Creation as a revelation of the truth that God does exist. God holds you accountable for what you do with that revelation. Pleading ignorance won't work, for you had only to allow yourself to consider honestly the import of God's wondrous Creation to see Him in it.
4. God has made a way, at tremendous cost to Himself, for you to be reconciled to Him and escape eternal punishment. He became flesh and dwelt among us, the Bible says, and then died on a cross as a sacrificial payment for the sins of all humanity. Every day you live in denial of God, you spurn His precious gift of salvation and increase the weight of your sin before your Maker.

So, you see, the issue isn't simply that you didn't happen to believe in God. There's a whole lot more to it than that.

Selah.
 
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Why dont you try a little experimentation? If there is no God then nothing will happen but if there is - you might get to know that greatest person in the universe.

Why dont you try and find out if he exists? Try reading the bible, and pray*, if he is real he will answer you. Then you can ask him your questions and get the answers you want from the horses mouth so to speak.

*There is no set way to pray, you just talk about what you think and ask questions - thats what I do.
 
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OP:

There is none good but God.

Good has nothing to do with going to hell/heaven; sooooo

The answer is yes. What does an atheist believe in for "creation"?


 
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I'm convinced that there is no God, and there never was.
Then why are you here asking this question?

leading a good life where I have never done any harm to anyone, send me to Hell?

You are doing the same thing every atheist does - determines what is moral in their own mind. The problem is, your opinion of morality does not match God's opinion.
 
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I am an Atheist, both my parents are Atheists as well.
I was raised free from all religion, in a "do what thou wilt"-sense.
In fact, my parents often slanted people for being religious calling them "stupid" or "ignorant", I stand for freedom in belief and I'm convinced that there is no God, and there never was.


My question is, if there actually is a God, will my not believing in him, despite leading a good life where I have never done any harm to anyone, send me to Hell?

There are people that exist that had athiestic parents who are christian. Its your free will that decides your fate. God is your judge not me. Its not about being a good or bad natured person.

Are you a good person? www.livingwaters.com/good/

Its a spiritual decision and there is intellectual proof but its all irrelevant if your mind is already made up.
 
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I am an Atheist, both my parents are Atheists as well.
I was raised free from all religion, in a "do what thou wilt"-sense.
In fact, my parents often slanted people for being religious calling them "stupid" or "ignorant", I stand for freedom in belief and I'm convinced that there is no God, and there never was.


My question is, if there actually is a God, will my not believing in him, despite leading a good life where I have never done any harm to anyone, send me to Hell?

Mankind has fallen spiritually and that one cure is Christ. Being good won't work because God's standards are too high. If one day you decide to truly seek God you will find Him. No person is ever talked into being a christian.


In case somehow you want to investigate this further more below for a start:
Examine the Evidence by Muncaster a former athiest/The Case for Christ and The Real Jesus by Lee Strobel a former athiest.
www.TheBibleProofBook.com, (you will need acrobat reader for this), read The Evidence That Demands A Verdict by Josh McDowell a former agnostic- (its overwhelming circumstantial evidence of bible)
 
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Why dont you try a little experimentation? If there is no God then nothing will happen but if there is - you might get to know that greatest person in the universe.

Why dont you try and find out if he exists? Try reading the bible, and pray*, if he is real he will answer you. Then you can ask him your questions and get the answers you want from the horses mouth so to speak.

*There is no set way to pray, you just talk about what you think and ask questions - thats what I do.


This is an excellent response to your question.

I know that quoting Scripture may mean nothing to you; especially since you believe there is no God. If there is no God, then there is no 'God's Word', and I get that.

However, if God is real, He himself puts the same challenge to us:

"For I know the plans I have for you. They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. When you pray, I will listen. If you look for me wholeheartedly, you will find me. I will be found by you,” says the LORD. (Jeremiah 29:11-12)


Honestly, what can you lose? If you're human, you've probably done some crazy things in your life; crazier than saying a prayer, right? And what if there really was eternity to gain?

IF you decide to talk to him a bit, read this at that time; For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son; that whosoever believes on him should not perish but have everlasting life. Then simply ask God to reveal himself to you, or you can say whatever you want to him.



Father God, if Aiki does choose to find out if You are real, please reveal Yourself to Aiki in such a way that there can be no doubt. Hear from heaven, and reveal the depth, breadth, and height of Your love through Christ Jesus. Amen.
 
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I am an Atheist, both my parents are Atheists as well.
I was raised free from all religion, in a "do what thou wilt"-sense.
In fact, my parents often slanted people for being religious calling them "stupid" or "ignorant", I stand for freedom in belief and I'm convinced that there is no God, and there never was.


My question is, if there actually is a God, will my not believing in him, despite leading a good life where I have never done any harm to anyone, send me to Hell?

Maybe yes, maybe no.

Maybe there are other realities than the Bibilical one.
 
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My question is, if there actually is a God, will my not believing in him, despite leading a good life where I have never done any harm to anyone, send me to Hell?

Doubles, God's standard is an extension of Himself: perfection. He can allow nothing to reconcile to Him that is not absolutely perfect. You might have a pretty good track record. You might wish good for people most of the time. But you cannot be perfect, as I'm sure your own conscience bears witness, and God is not able to lower His standards. That's why Jesus had to take our place on the Cross. His perfect life was given for us who are imperfect.

I'm not sure why you came here to ask your question, since you say you don't believe, but why not try this: Ask God to make Himself known to you. Challenge Him, but do it with a sincere heart. You may be surprised what you find.
 
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Hi I wish I could explain to you how good God is. If you were inclined to goodness you would have no problem following God. He is the kind of God who rejoyces over you with singing, even as an athiest, he makes no distinction when it comes to pouring out his love. Of course I am not saying no one will get sent to hell, if latter in life you choose to stop being a good guy and start vilolently oppressing and denying the poor justice you might just end up in hell. But believe me when I say it here is enough mercy in God too keep you from hell. You do need to recieve God before you die, but I am confident in one thing God's love for you is great, don't think you will just be thrown into hell, God far from hates you.

I work for a web design firm, doing websites, I have a client, not a christian, a bit of drinker, but he was wanting to set up a business that gave 20% to charity. I asked the LORD for a verse for him, I opened the bible at random, i.e. not looking for a verse but allowing the LORD too choose it. It opened to the following verse, Act 20:35 "In all things I gave you an example, that so laboring ye ought to help the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that he himself said, It is more blessed to give than to receive." It was clear to me that Jesus saw what he was doing and said to me, in a round about way, I love what he is doing, I will bless him. As the verse said, "It is more blessed to give than to recieve".

One last thing note the way the apostle of the LORD speaks by the Holy Spirit. Php 3:18-19 For many walk, of whom I told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: whose end is perdition, whose god is the belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.

Paul said he was weeping, crying when he thought about those who make them selves enemies of Gods great love, and will end up in judgment, he was not happy about it, neither is God happy. God says, Eze 18:31-2 Why will you die, ... For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!
 
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I am an Atheist, both my parents are Atheists as well.
I was raised free from all religion, in a "do what thou wilt"-sense.
In fact, my parents often slanted people for being religious calling them "stupid" or "ignorant", I stand for freedom in belief and I'm convinced that there is no God, and there never was.


My question is, if there actually is a God, will my not believing in him, despite leading a good life where I have never done any harm to anyone, send me to Hell?


Imagine if you were born in a place isolated by religion? How could you be punished for not knowing. Therefore the only thing you can do is follow the morals of the society your born into. And then you will not be punished :D
 
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This is what God says in his Word about mankind's `goodness':

"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:...there is none that doeth good, no, not one." Romans 3:10 & 12

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23

In other words, no one has ever lived a perfectly sinless life. No matter how good we are, we have all messed up somewhere along the way. But the good news is that the next verse tells us how we can be saved from the consequences of whatever sins we may have committed:

"Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:" Romans 3:24. Only through Jesus Christ (who died the death that we should suffer for our own sins) can we have eternal life.

So how, through Jesus can we be saved? Let's read on:
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved" Acts 16:31
By simply believing that Jesus died in your place. That he died for your sins, so that you don't have to.

May you accept salvation through Jesus Christ
 
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I am an Atheist, both my parents are Atheists as well.
I was raised free from all religion, in a "do what thou wilt"-sense.
In fact, my parents often slanted people for being religious calling them "stupid" or "ignorant", I stand for freedom in belief and I'm convinced that there is no God, and there never was.


My question is, if there actually is a God, will my not believing in him, despite leading a good life where I have never done any harm to anyone, send me to Hell?

Here's the thing, despite what is commonly said, God chose to offer us salvation through sacrificing himself on the cross...he didn't have to choose that method, he chould merely have decided to save everyone. God is infinitely powerful, he can do whatever he wants. We don't know, and cannot comprehend why he chose this method. We don't know why he created all of creation. We don't know why he willed a system where some of his creations, whom he loves more than anything, would be damned.

But here's the thing too: I don't really want to know.

I used to be an athest myself, and you know what? I drifted from libertarianism, leftism, conservatism, liberalism, pacifism, "me"ism, contrarianism...all sort of philosophies designed to discover what is right by some principle of the universe that all is reducible to.

And you know what? I realized two things:

1. Any ideology I came to I accepted on faith, no matter how much I rationalized things, it always boiled down to "because". I concluded any belief system was a religion.
2. I was angry, boastful, egoist. I said horrible things to people who I didn't believe were living life according to my standards. I was frustrated when I couldn't make my ideologies be both perfectly conistent and practical....and I was always angry, and always depressed.

I was, in short, my own God. I had opened Pandora's Box, I had eaten of the apple. God said not to, God said ignorance is bliss, God said don't even go there, but I went there. I saw darkness and miserery and despair and nonsense. The more I looked, the worse it got.

Instead, I chose to have a child-like trust in the faith that built our civilization, and even just a few decades ago, when we were immeasurably poorer, but sitll believers, we had just a small fraction of the crime, illiteracy, unwanted children, abortions (yes, unwanted children and abortions have both gone up), general social dissaray that we have now. We are living in the shadow of a Christian world, and I"m not sure I like what I see of the post-Christian world ahead. I thought this all as an atheist, mind you.

Some Christians have very specific beliefs about how God chooses the saved amd the damned...I am sure they are honest Christians trying to love God, but frankly I find that the wrong approach. I know that this all makes sense to God, and that he loves me, and that he loves you just as much. My job and yours is to try to listen to him when he calls you and try to get closer to him.

God is not bound by sacraments. God is not bound by your saying "Lord, Lord", by your praying, or by your neurons firing in such a way to give you the though "I give my heart to Jesus". God is bound by nothing, and none of us know where you're going. That doesn't mean that Jesus isn't "the way, the truth, and the life", and that we don't believe that we are saved through unmerited grace, through faith in Christ alone, it just means that...God is far more than we can comprehend, and he wants us to have a child-like trust in him.

There is no argument that proves or disproves God. Of that I am convinced. I don't think you'll be convinced by reading the gospels or praying...you sound like someone who's looked, and who has searched. I pray and hope though, that you will.

Instead I will give you the argument that swayed me:

Seeing as we can't prove or disprove God, would it be better for you if you believed, or if you didn't believe.

Try "deciding" to believe. Go, pick a church--may I suggest Catholic or Orthodox--and just, admire the liturgy. Realize that the course of Civilization has been wedded to this belief system. Realize that Secular Humanism arose out of thinkers that thought of themselves and their philosophy as inseparable from Christendom. Have coffee and donuts, hit on some girls, join the choir. Think of it as a social function and an expression of traditionin a world where the crime is rising, schools are failing, and life seems more and more bleak.

Just when you do so, do me a favor and don't close your heart to God.

Anyway, no, none of us know where you're going, we're not God. Come by a Catholic parish, I promise we won't bible-thump you and call you a sinner.
 
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My question is, if there actually is a God, will my not believing in him, despite leading a good life where I have never done any harm to anyone, send me to Hell?

If you are an atheist, then you are not only not believing in the christian god. So lets pretend, that there is a right religion and pretend you start to believe in the wrong one.

Wouldn't it be funny, if you would be a believing christian and at the end you don't have any money in the afterlife to pay ferryman Charon to bring you over Styx? ;)

What would make a god more angry: Not believing in him or believing in a different god?
 
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What would make a god more angry: Not believing in him or believing in a different god?

I see where you are going, but I think in some ways not believing in Him is the same as believing in a different God, because either way you are defining yourself as the ultimate judge of truth in the universe.

We have to accept that we can't be that judge.

Also, the OP stated he has never hurt anyone. So I suppose OP has never paid taxes that helped jail an innocent person, drop a bomb on someone in a far away country, say something cruel to someone, even unintentionally? Or even, in trying to do good, accidentally did evil, or ended up driving someone away from a good act?

It's impossible not to do harm. We are all douchebags in our own special way.

Not one is worthy. Not one. And OP doesn't realize that being good relative to the depravity that is humanity...that's not very good at all.

That's why God gave us his only begotten son, to bear the penalty of our sins, and only asks that we have faith in him.

Anyway, I at least want to thank the atheists on this forum for taking the time to politely dialog with Christians. I hope you will accept Christ, but it is in God's hands.
 
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