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Einstein said:I think you're all wrong. I think that I'm God. Have fun trying to prove me wrong. remember, I do not like to show off, so asking me to prove my powers is out of the question. Come on! Prove me wrong! Oh yeah, you can't, unless you consider the fact that there is no god. ...Scratch that, I am God.
I'm currently assuming that this response isn't in any way meant to be taken seriously.LittleNipper said:You cannot be GOD, because GOD knows-----GOD does not think so...
Frumious Bandersnatch said:Little Nipper,
You claimed the mountains were much smaller before the flood. In addition to the geological absurdity of this claim it has the following problem which I brought up earlier.
"But don't you (YECs) also use those mountains to sort the fossil record either by ecological zoning or differential escapability? How do you sort fossils through thousands of feet of sediments by these mechanisms with only "high hills"?"
Do you have an answer?
IMO this is one of many illustrations of the way YECs will try to answer questions in isolation without considering that the answer to one question about their model may invalidate their answer to another question. What is totally lacking is any coherent explanation of how the currently observed earth could arise from the YEC Young Earth and Global Flood Models without a continous string of miracles generated to cover up the flood and make the earth look old.
FB
LittleNipper said:What "geological absurdity?" There is NOTHING that would indicate that the earth always had mountains. Man MUST make certain assumptions. Those assumptions may seem very logical; however, they are still assumptions and nothing more.
Apparently dinosaurs were smarter than Permian Mammal Like Reptiles but not as smart as most grasses.We do not know how high the hills were. We do not know how swiftly the waters poured in throught the valleys. The logic is that coastal marine life was effected first. They would have been likely buried in silt first. Next would have been dumb animals. The is no indication that any of the dinosaurs were very smart.
Holding out on what? The mountains that didn't exist before the flood? I guess sloths and grasses both outran pterosaurs and velociraptors up those short hills while thousand of feet of sediment were being deposited below them.Birds and man would have likely been the longest hold outs.
And we have millions of fossils in museums and there are billions more in the ground. Where were all those animals living?There is also the question of how species may have died may likely effect the chances of finding their fossils. The animals whose bodies floated would simply rot away to nothing. There would be no fossil formed.
And somehow the terrestrial animals sank without getting mixed with marine life.Those that sank in the very early stages of the Flood would be the most likely to be fossilized.
Of course we don't since the global flood is a myth.Then there is the question of quantities.
The more animals of any given species the more likely it would seem that a fossil would be formed. We have NO idea how many men existed on the earth at the time of the Flood.
But we do have fossils of huge numbers of Oligocene and Miocene mammals. Somehow they all managed to escape getting buried with the dinosaurs. I guess they ran pretty fast up those high hills.There may have been only a few hundred. It would seem likely that there were a few thousand. But either is conjecture and not based on Biblical data.
If all the volcanoes, especially those that form the large igneous provinces had erupted during the flood it would have produced enough SO2 to sterilize the oceans. We have a thread on that somewhere.My feeling is that nothing appears older then when it gets broken. I believe that the Flood was the breaking of the earth. Everything we see geologically, has been either throught the wash or put through the wringer. All earthquakes and volcanic action are either directly or the indirect results of the Flood.
The reality is that the falsifications of the global flood have nothing to do with evolution.The reality is, that evolutionists have taken past opportunities to develope a complex panoramic school of logic throught which they process all the data.
It is the interpretation of the Bible that is in question. YEC force themselves to shut their minds to many sciences to support a particular intrepretation of scripture.This was not true for creationism, because believers simply accepted the Bible as inspired.
Ah the good old "true Scotsman Fallacy. I wonder if the others here have noticed how heavily YEC relies on various logical fallacies.Since a TRUE Christian, knows and is having his faith built through LIFES experiences, he has no need to question GOD's creative abilities. The problem is that as exposure to GOD began to be limited in all areas and especially in education, there develope the need to reach people BEFORE they were indoctrinated into the fabric of secular thought and evolutionistic expressionism.
LittleNipper said:What "geological absurdity?" There is NOTHING that would indicate that the earth always had mountains.
Man MUST make certain assumptions. Those assumptions may seem very logical; however, they are still assumptions and nothing more.
We do not know how high the hills were. We do not know how swiftly the waters poured in throught the valleys.
The logic is that coastal marine life was effected first. They would have been likely buried in silt first.
Next would have been dumb animals. The is no indication that any of the dinosaurs were very smart. Birds and man would have likely been the longest hold outs.
There is also the question of how species may have died may likely effect the chances of finding their fossils. The animals whose bodies floated would simply rot away to nothing. There would be no fossil formed. Those that sank in the very early stages of the Flood would be the most likely to be fossilized. Then there is the question of quantities.
The more animals of any given species the more likely it would seem that a fossil would be formed. We have NO idea how many men existed on the earth at the time of the Flood. There may have been only a few hundred. It would seem likely that there were a few thousand. But either is conjecture and not based on Biblical data.
My feeling is that nothing appears older then when it gets broken. I believe that the Flood was the breaking of the earth. Everything we see geologically, has been either throught the wash or put through the wringer. All earthquakes and volcanic action are either directly or the indirect results of the Flood.
The reality is, that evolutionists have taken past opportunities to develope a complex panoramic school of logic throught which they process all the data.
This was not true for creationism, because believers simply accepted the Bible as inspired.
Since a TRUE Christian, knows and is having his faith built through LIFES experiences, he has no need to question GOD's creative abilities.
The problem is that as exposure to GOD began to be limited in all areas and especially in education, there developed the need to reach people BEFORE they were indoctrinated into the fabric of secular thought and evolutionistic expressionism and or to counterbalance the view.
LittleNipper said:What "geological absurdity?" There is NOTHING that would indicate that the earth always had mountains. Man MUST make certain assumptions. Those assumptions may seem very logical; however, they are still assumptions and nothing more.
We do not know how high the hills were. We do not know how swiftly the waters poured in throught the valleys. The logic is that coastal marine life was effected first. They would have been likely buried in silt first. Next would have been dumb animals. The is no indication that any of the dinosaurs were very smart. Birds and man would have likely been the longest hold outs. There is also the question of how species may have died may likely effect the chances of finding their fossils. The animals whose bodies floated would simply rot away to nothing. There would be no fossil formed. Those that sank in the very early stages of the Flood would be the most likely to be fossilized. Then there is the question of quantities.
The more animals of any given species the more likely it would seem that a fossil would be formed. We have NO idea how many men existed on the earth at the time of the Flood. There may have been only a few hundred. It would seem likely that there were a few thousand. But either is conjecture and not based on Biblical data.
The reality is, that evolutionists have taken past opportunities to develope a complex panoramic school of logic throught which they process all the data.
This was not true for creationism, because believers simply accepted the Bible as inspired. Since a TRUE Christian, knows and is having his faith built through LIFES experiences, he has no need to question GOD's creative abilities. The problem is that as exposure to GOD began to be limited in all areas and especially in education, there developed the need to reach people BEFORE they were indoctrinated into the fabric of secular thought and evolutionistic expressionism and or to counterbalance the view.
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