norse creationism

LittleNipper · Jun 8, 2005

Nathan Poe said:
Might makes right?

Or is the right God just the one that the most people believe in at the time?

The right GOD is the I AM as opposed to They're Not.

LittleNipper · Jun 8, 2005

Mechanical Bliss said:
Why continue to pretend like this hasn't already been explained for your benefit in the past?

Nothing, obviously, because that has already been done two hundred years ago.

See, the thing is, geologists aren't working on some sort of agenda like that. They have no bias in this regard. Geologists study the earth out of curiosity not because of some sort of agenda. It just turns out that everything geologists find that would be relevant to this topic is a disproof of a global flood. There's no getting around that.

Why don't you just buy a broken record. NOTHING was PROVEN 200 years ago. The ONLY thing that happened was that assumptions were expressed and considered about what was viewed. NOTHING was tested. They used "logic," and that logic was founded in then awakening HUMANISTIC movement. Has any experiment ever been done to see how any given plant might survive through such a flood? NO!

Nathan Poe · Jun 8, 2005

LittleNipper said:
The right GOD is the I AM as opposed to They're Not.

So the one true God is the God with the last man standing.

An attitude responsible for every crusade, jihad, and religious bloodbath in human history.

Nathan Poe · Jun 8, 2005

LittleNipper said:
Why don't you just buy a broken record. NOTHING was PROVEN 200 years ago. The ONLY thing that happened was that assumptions were expressed and considered about what was viewed. NOTHING was tested. They used "logic," and that logic was founded in then awakening HUMANISTIC movement. Has any experiment ever been done to see how any given plant might survive through such a flood? NO!

1: Take any given plant.
2: Immerse it completely in salt water for 40 days and 40 nights.
3: Record results.
4: Buy a new plant.
Repeat as necessary.

LittleNipper · Jun 8, 2005

AnEmpiricalAgnostic said:
Did you even read the entire work and try to understand it? If so, please state your specific rebuttal to the arguments made.

The guy makes half statements without even a consideration for other logical possibilities.

LittleNipper · Jun 8, 2005

Nathan Poe said:
1: Take any given plant.
2: Immerse it completely in salt water for 40 days and 40 nights.
3: Record results.
4: Buy a new plant.
Repeat as necessary.

The salt content of the oceans has been increasing over time. The first experiment would be to submerge a plant in fresh water for 1 day and then 2 and then three and so on. It rained for 40 days but everything would not be under water until logically the 40th day.

LittleNipper · Jun 8, 2005

Nathan Poe said:
So the one true God is the God with the last man standing.

An attitude responsible for every crusade, jihad, and religious bloodbath in human history.

No, actually all of that is the result of man rejecting GOD and trying to make a way for himself. The responsibility lies clearly in the court of the agnostics. However, they do enjoy pointing the finger at either everyone else and/or GOD.

Nathan Poe · Jun 8, 2005

LittleNipper said:
The salt content of the oceans has been increasing over time. The first experiment would be to submerge a plant in fresh water for 1 day and then 2 and then three and so on. It rained for 40 days but everything would not be under water until logically the 40th day.

By the 40th day, the highest mountain was underwater. We can safely assume the plants at ground level were submerged long before that.

So I'll be generous and dunk the plant in fresh water for 37 days... and that's not even counting the time it took for the waters to recede...

Nathan Poe · Jun 8, 2005

LittleNipper said:
No, actually all of that is the result of man rejecting GOD and trying to make a way for himself. The responsibility lies clearly in the court of the agnostics. However, they do enjoy pointing the finger at either everyone else and/or GOD.

You're saying the crusades had nothing to do with the "My God is better than your God" syndrome?

LittleNipper · Jun 8, 2005

Nathan Poe said:
You're saying the crusades had nothing to do with the "My God is better than your God" syndrome?

NO, what they did was attempt to "earn" their place in heaven by satisfying the wishes of a pope. I really feel GOD was ignored for duty and honor--------and plunder.

Herman Hedning · Jun 8, 2005

LittleNipper said:
The salt content of the oceans has been increasing over time. The first experiment would be to submerge a plant in fresh water for 1 day and then 2 and then three and so on. It rained for 40 days but everything would not be under water until logically the 40th day.

[BIBLE]Genesis 7:17[/BIBLE]
[BIBLE]Genesis 7:24[/BIBLE]
So the duration of the flood was at least 150 days. If you read the verses dealing with this you can get a total duration of over a year. In any case way too long for any vegetation to survive.

Loudmouth · Jun 8, 2005

LittleNipper said:
The salt content of the oceans has been increasing over time. The first experiment would be to submerge a plant in fresh water for 1 day and then 2 and then three and so on. It rained for 40 days but everything would not be under water until logically the 40th day.

Don't forget to bury it under a 1,000 feet of sediment.

Elduran · Jun 8, 2005

Loudmouth said:
Don't forget to bury it under a 1,000 feet of sediment.

Was going to suggest covering it so that it can't get any light too. After all, the transmittance of light through that much water is pretty negligible.

Diagoras · Jun 8, 2005

(a) If Odin exists, then whoever doesn't believe in him will end up being eternally tormented and sent to Helheim.

(b) If Odin exists, then whoever believes in him (and dies in battle!) will gain eternal life in Valhalla.

(c) If Odin doesn't exist, then whether or not people believe in him can't matter very much.

(d) Hence [from (a)-(c)], non-Odininsts are running a grave risk. At the very least, the expected utility of their belief situation is infinitely worse than that of true believers.

(e) But such people are able to self-induce Odinistic belief.

(f) Therefore [from (d) & (e)], all non-Odinists ought to change their beliefs and become true believers in Odin.

ChrisS · Jun 8, 2005

Diagoras said:
(a) If Odin exists, then whoever doesn't believe in him will end up being eternally tormented and sent to Helheim.

(b) If Odin exists, then whoever believes in him (and dies in battle!) will gain eternal life in Valhalla.

(c) If Odin doesn't exist, then whether or not people believe in him can't matter very much.

(d) Hence [from (a)-(c)], non-Odininsts are running a grave risk. At the very least, the expected utility of their belief situation is infinitely worse than that of true believers.

(e) But such people are able to self-induce Odinistic belief.

(f) Therefore [from (d) & (e)], all non-Odinists ought to change their beliefs and become true believers in Odin.

Odin doesn't try to have personal relationships with His followers, Odin doesn't love His creations ( oh wait, he doesn't have any , Odin's selfish...

My God ownz him, sorry, but it's true. Look at the OT, everyone else lost to Him, except for when God punished the israelites.

Loudmouth · Jun 8, 2005

Elduran said:
Was going to suggest covering it so that it can't get any light too. After all, the transmittance of light through that much water is pretty negligible.

[sarcasm]
Oh, you are totally wrong. You are using your atheistic uniformitarian logic. During the flood the water was different. It let light through just fine. In fact, some say that the light transmugufigation factor varies by as much as 1,000% if God created light 6,000 years ago. And if you ask me for proof it is just more evidence that you only want to deny God.[/sarcasm]

Wow, that felt good. It's a lot of fun just making stuff up and pretending that it's real.

Diagoras · Jun 8, 2005

"Odin doesn't try to have personal relationships with His followers, Odin doesn't love His creations ( oh wait, he doesn't have any , Odin's selfish..."

Well, ChrisS..Say Hi to Darwin and Budda when you get to Helheim! Don't tell Odin you weren't warned!

Ryal Kane · Jun 8, 2005

Of course Odin is real. Haven't you all read the awesome 'American Gods' by Neil Gaiman?

Daegor · Jun 8, 2005

Nice to see so many atheists have finally seen the light.

ChrisS said:
Odin doesn't try to have personal relationships with His followers, Odin doesn't love His creations ( oh wait, he doesn't have any , Odin's selfish...

Tsk... how little ye know.

Look, proof...

Voluspo: Stanza 4:

"4. Then Bur's sons lifted | the level land,
Mithgarth the mighty | there they made;
The sun from the south | warmed the stones of earth,
And green was the ground | with growing leeks"

Odin made everything, I wouldn't call that selfish.

Pfft... Old Testament indeed, Yawehs propaganda.

Old legends: All the proof you'll ever need

c'mon sense · Jun 8, 2005

LittleNipper said:
There will never be a flood as vast as THE FLOOD. The next judgment will be by fire.

How about, the next judgement will be by using one's own mind? Is that really against all odds...

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