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The Kitchen Sink
Non-Christians: Why Are You Here?
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<blockquote data-quote="keith99" data-source="post: 74549674" data-attributes="member: 211648"><p>Perhaps I am the instrument of your God even though I do not think he exists. But it seems most Christians here will not even entertain the idea that their God might choose to use an unbeliever much as that seems to me to be choking on a gnat after swallowing a camel. If He does exist he can use whatever tools He likes. </p><p></p><p>That said here is the answer I gave elsewhere recently. </p><p></p><p>I first came here because of a thread on a bicycling forum. It started with a lot of pretty stupid things said on various Christion websites. I have the nasty habit of checking things. I expected that the posted selected were cherry picking. Sadly in general I was proved wrong. For most sites they were typical. This site was different. There were many insightful posts. </p><p></p><p>So I joined. It was months before I noticed a high percentage (but far from all) of the insightful posts were from non-Christians. </p><p></p><p>I listed myself as agnostic when I joined. Over time this site has in general degraded as I see it. But there are also ups and downs. At one point there was a decided downward trend in the areas I frequent where people who identified as atheist were routinely attacked without cause. </p><p></p><p>Technically the terms atheist and agnostic deal with different things. Agnostic means one does not claim (special) knowledge. Atheist means one does not believe in any god(s). I am an agnostic atheist. I do not believe in any god, but also do not claim certainty or special knowledge. </p><p></p><p>I've always been willing to step up. I got tired of people being attacked and instead of remaining silent I changed my identification from agnostic to atheist. I started a thread explaining why I did so. Looking back it was quite gratifying because it motivated a lot of decent Christians to post when they had been silent before.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="keith99, post: 74549674, member: 211648"] Perhaps I am the instrument of your God even though I do not think he exists. But it seems most Christians here will not even entertain the idea that their God might choose to use an unbeliever much as that seems to me to be choking on a gnat after swallowing a camel. If He does exist he can use whatever tools He likes. That said here is the answer I gave elsewhere recently. I first came here because of a thread on a bicycling forum. It started with a lot of pretty stupid things said on various Christion websites. I have the nasty habit of checking things. I expected that the posted selected were cherry picking. Sadly in general I was proved wrong. For most sites they were typical. This site was different. There were many insightful posts. So I joined. It was months before I noticed a high percentage (but far from all) of the insightful posts were from non-Christians. I listed myself as agnostic when I joined. Over time this site has in general degraded as I see it. But there are also ups and downs. At one point there was a decided downward trend in the areas I frequent where people who identified as atheist were routinely attacked without cause. Technically the terms atheist and agnostic deal with different things. Agnostic means one does not claim (special) knowledge. Atheist means one does not believe in any god(s). I am an agnostic atheist. I do not believe in any god, but also do not claim certainty or special knowledge. I've always been willing to step up. I got tired of people being attacked and instead of remaining silent I changed my identification from agnostic to atheist. I started a thread explaining why I did so. Looking back it was quite gratifying because it motivated a lot of decent Christians to post when they had been silent before. [/QUOTE]
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