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If Noah was a real historical person or not, people seem to miss the point of the story. If it is not a real story, then why don't people get it?
Jack Van Impe says he reads his Bible and he likes to read a lot of different news papers. Sometimes the newspaper and the Bible are saying the same thing.
I study the Bible, I study science and sometimes they say the same thing. For example, I just found a web site that talks about the history of the olive tree: "The olive was native to Asia Minor and spread from Iran, Syria and Palestine to the rest of the Mediterranean basin 6,000 years ago. It is among the oldest known cultivated trees in the world - being grown before the written language was invented."
Interesting that we read about the olive tree in Noah's story. "And the dove came in to him in the evening ; and, lo, in her mouth [was] an olive 2132 leaf 5929 pluckt off : so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth 776."
Ok, maybe this does not mean anything to anyone. But for me Adam lived 6,000 years ago in the Garden that God planted in Eden. The Olive tree was first cultivated 6,000 years ago in the area Adam was said to have lived in. This is a match for me to help confirm the story of Adam and Eve.
Oh, there is a LOT more then just the Olive tree that had it's beginning with the Adam and Eve in the Bible. This is just a small part of the story.
Children learn these storys, then we spend the rest of our lives trying to understand the meaning and the lesson in it for us. It is up to the pastor to teach us what the story really means and how it can apply to our lives.
But if you want mythology we got that also. Because Greek mythology will tell us how the Olive tree found it's way from the Garden in Eden to the rest of the world, esp Acropolis. We have Athena to thank for that who was said to be a "goddess". That would mean she was decended from Adam in some way. They named a city after her.
MYTHOLOGY
Athens is named for the Goddess Athena who brought the olive to the Greeks as a gift. Zeus had promised to give Attica to the god or goddess who made the most useful invention. Athena's gift of the olive, useful for light, heat, food, medicine and perfume was picked as a more peaceful invention than Poseidon's horse - touted as a rapid and powerful instrument of war. Athena planted the original olive tree on a rocky hill that we know today as the Acropolis. The olive tree that grows there today is said to have come from the roots of the original tree.
So do we have a connection between the DNA of the Middle East Hebrews and the Italians? Lets look and see: "The various Jewish groups were more related to each other than to non-Jews, as well. Within every Jewish group, individuals shared as much of their genome as two fourth or fifth cousins, with Italian, Syrian, Iranian, and Iraqi Jews the most inbred, in the sense that they married within the small, close-knit community. In general, the genetic similarity of any two groups was larger the closer they lived to one another, but there was an exception: Turkish and Italian Jews were most closely related genetically, but are quite separated geographically." Looks like more then just the Olive tree found it's way to Athens. It looks like some of the Jewish DNA found it's way to that city also.
Although the origin of the Jews has been traced, archeologically, to the Middle East in the second millennium B.C.E., what happened next has been more opaque. To sort it out, researchers collected DNA from Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, and Ashkenazi Jews around New York City; Turkish Sephardic Jews in Seattle; Greek Sephardic Jews in Thessaloniki and Athens; and Italian Jews in Rome as part of the Jewish HapMap Project. (All four grandparents of each participant had to have come from the same
Jack Van Impe says he reads his Bible and he likes to read a lot of different news papers. Sometimes the newspaper and the Bible are saying the same thing.
I study the Bible, I study science and sometimes they say the same thing. For example, I just found a web site that talks about the history of the olive tree: "The olive was native to Asia Minor and spread from Iran, Syria and Palestine to the rest of the Mediterranean basin 6,000 years ago. It is among the oldest known cultivated trees in the world - being grown before the written language was invented."
Interesting that we read about the olive tree in Noah's story. "And the dove came in to him in the evening ; and, lo, in her mouth [was] an olive 2132 leaf 5929 pluckt off : so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth 776."
Ok, maybe this does not mean anything to anyone. But for me Adam lived 6,000 years ago in the Garden that God planted in Eden. The Olive tree was first cultivated 6,000 years ago in the area Adam was said to have lived in. This is a match for me to help confirm the story of Adam and Eve.
Oh, there is a LOT more then just the Olive tree that had it's beginning with the Adam and Eve in the Bible. This is just a small part of the story.
Children learn these storys, then we spend the rest of our lives trying to understand the meaning and the lesson in it for us. It is up to the pastor to teach us what the story really means and how it can apply to our lives.
But if you want mythology we got that also. Because Greek mythology will tell us how the Olive tree found it's way from the Garden in Eden to the rest of the world, esp Acropolis. We have Athena to thank for that who was said to be a "goddess". That would mean she was decended from Adam in some way. They named a city after her.
MYTHOLOGY
Athens is named for the Goddess Athena who brought the olive to the Greeks as a gift. Zeus had promised to give Attica to the god or goddess who made the most useful invention. Athena's gift of the olive, useful for light, heat, food, medicine and perfume was picked as a more peaceful invention than Poseidon's horse - touted as a rapid and powerful instrument of war. Athena planted the original olive tree on a rocky hill that we know today as the Acropolis. The olive tree that grows there today is said to have come from the roots of the original tree.
So do we have a connection between the DNA of the Middle East Hebrews and the Italians? Lets look and see: "The various Jewish groups were more related to each other than to non-Jews, as well. Within every Jewish group, individuals shared as much of their genome as two fourth or fifth cousins, with Italian, Syrian, Iranian, and Iraqi Jews the most inbred, in the sense that they married within the small, close-knit community. In general, the genetic similarity of any two groups was larger the closer they lived to one another, but there was an exception: Turkish and Italian Jews were most closely related genetically, but are quite separated geographically." Looks like more then just the Olive tree found it's way to Athens. It looks like some of the Jewish DNA found it's way to that city also.
Although the origin of the Jews has been traced, archeologically, to the Middle East in the second millennium B.C.E., what happened next has been more opaque. To sort it out, researchers collected DNA from Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, and Ashkenazi Jews around New York City; Turkish Sephardic Jews in Seattle; Greek Sephardic Jews in Thessaloniki and Athens; and Italian Jews in Rome as part of the Jewish HapMap Project. (All four grandparents of each participant had to have come from the same
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