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Lol I laughed so much harder than I should have at this.
Don't think you quite get my drifts here.
1. Think it is ok to serially classify atheists according to their reasons for
believing the stuff they do about themselves and the universe.
Look at all the different types of Christianity, each having a point of
difference yet in the same boat. That's how the mind works in
social circles and atheism is no different. People like to fit in but add
a twist of their personality on the subject matter.
Also maybe a way through to a real persons mind who can't stop
repeating No means No (when it comes to gods)
2. Think it is definitely OK to link Causation, cosmology and Gods
in the same sentences without semantics.
look at all previous religions I can think of
e.g. the Abrahamic big 3 have the Torah heading up the first books
of scripture with a detailed causation account.
Why should the atheist religion be any different or treated specially?
e.g2 In Maori creation accounts the North Island of NZ was snagged
when a Maori anthropocentric god went fishing in his canoe.
3 All I am doing is finishing off the atheists' thought train where it has
come to a halt for no reason, and bringing this to your attention, if you
don't mind? It is only words on a page.
The disclosure of nature is the greatest clue to our cosmology,
(our cause of everything).
Science and new science has given us a cosmology
that is very detailed and verified. A wonderful achievement.
So we have a modern atheist with a very rich cosmology which points to
some genuine causation options.
So we have the causation (options) and the cosmology but WHOOPS
someone stole the God of it all and the atheist God has not been seen since.
But the God of that causation did not go anywhere, just the mind
of the atheist came to a standstill.
The atheist knows he/she has had causation
eg our higher elements were made in nebulas and alike,
but denies it in the same
breath. (by saying there is no cause for causes period).
So what is the atheist God by default when you take this thought
forward (though atheists will avoid this step).
Well, the God would be the forces of nature acting together
to produce the complexity we see. But without any intervention or help
on an omnipotent plane.
Matter is designed to gain complexity by simply bumping into each other is
possible and helped along by all the other forces of nature.
The God becomes the random god of probability driven by the asymmetry
of matter and the universe by default. This is the god, atheists think
they do not (or refuse to) believe in.
Not believing in it does not make it go away.
No, Gottservant uses plenty of redundant commas.Well, with sentences like this...
"We each have a dual honesty and within limits it is permitted as our falseness
which the mind must balance with sincerity in being human with all the complexities of humanity. "
He's got all the familiar symptoms.
No, Gottservant uses plenty of redundant commas.
Atheists either are:
1. Remaining ignorant about themselves and their true position in the cosmos.
These believers fall under the accommodating wings of 2 below since they
donot really understand science for themselves.
2. Who are scientific and can understand and accept the limitations of an
absolute materialism philosophy.
The God of Absolute materialism becomes the god since that is the
mechanism of causation.
Not threatened by atheist or adherent.
Call it a survey, What really really makes you tick the atheist box on census night? Please do not say.. I have no attitude about god
On a virtually anonymous internet discussion board? No, all you need are little tiny ones.Hi,
It takes big nuts to wander in and call all atheists that they are
mistaken about themselves and the universe.
But you understand this science, do you? Care to elucidate?Atheists either are:
1. Remaining ignorant about themselves and their true position in the cosmos.
These believers fall under the accommodating wings of 2 below since they
donot really understand science for themselves.
For the purposes of exploring reality, you are free to suggest an alternative.2. Who are scientific and can understand and accept the limitations of an
absolute materialism philosophy.
If it does not require faith, worship, or belief, why call it a 'god'?The God of Absolute materialism becomes the god since that is the
mechanism of causation.
You think they are lying. Easy for you, then, to declare them wrong.3 Or who perhaps otherwise are avoiding stuff or are being
insincere for whatever reason.
Do you just makes up these gods by yourself?4.Perhaps you really do believe in the God of no causation but I think we know more than that.
I don't self-identify with the term, so I would not tick that box.Not threatened by atheist or adherent.
Call it a survey, What really really makes you tick the atheist box on census night?
Perhaps you should change the bait you use when you troll.Please do not say.. I have no attitude about god
I have learnt atheists do not appreciate the likes of me poking around in their stuff very much. The faster and more vehement the response - the bigger the attitude.
I really don't understand why some people are so set upon "identifying" in what category others may or may not fit into.I really don't understand why some people are so set upon showing that atheists don't exist.
I could understand people trying to show why atheists are wrong... but that they don't really hold the position they claim to hold...?
Seriously... do you feel so threatened by the very existence of people who disbelieve if deities that you need to call them liars?
What are your reasons ? I'd be interested on you elaborating if you wish.Here's what's in my god belief file: The concept "God" is an invalid concept.
There are a couple of posters who will pop up that I suspect are socks of Gotts. I singled one out the other day and never saw a follow up.Is this Gottservant??
Be honest...
I can't take that claim seriously. If causation is purely natural, there is nothing there to assume the supernatural or transcendent role of a God. You are really reaching for straws here.
Think your defense is grasping fat straws here.
Why would God need to be limited to the supernatural world?
(when whatever created this disclosure so obviously has at least a foot in this dimension.
Supernatural is a silly word... Show me something supernatural
and I will show you something that is not supernatural anymore.
Hi,
It takes big nuts to wander in and call all atheists that they are
mistaken about themselves and the universe.
Atheists either are:
1. Remaining ignorant about themselves and their true position in the cosmos.
These believers fall under the accommodating wings of 2 below since they
donot really understand science for themselves.
2. Who are scientific and can understand and accept the limitations of an
absolute materialism philosophy.
The God of Absolute materialism becomes the god since that is the
mechanism of causation.
3 Or who perhaps otherwise are avoiding stuff or are being
insincere for whatever reason.
4.Perhaps you really do believe in the God of no causation but I think we know
more than that.
Not threatened by atheist or adherent.
Call it a survey, What really really makes you tick the atheist box on census night? Please do not say.. I have no attitude about god
I have learnt atheists do not appreciate the likes of me poking around in their stuff very much. The faster and more vehement the response - the bigger the attitude.
Hi,
It takes big nuts to wander in and call all atheists that they are
mistaken about themselves and the universe.
Atheists either are:
1. Remaining ignorant about themselves and their true position in the cosmos.
These believers fall under the accommodating wings of 2 below since they
donot really understand science for themselves.
2. Who are scientific and can understand and accept the limitations of an
absolute materialism philosophy.
The God of Absolute materialism becomes the god since that is the
mechanism of causation.
3 Or who perhaps otherwise are avoiding stuff or are being
insincere for whatever reason.
4.Perhaps you really do believe in the God of no causation but I think we know
more than that.
Not threatened by atheist or adherent.
Call it a survey, What really really makes you tick the atheist box on census night? Please do not say.. I have no attitude about god
I have learnt atheists do not appreciate the likes of me poking around in their stuff very much. The faster and more vehement the response - the bigger the attitude.
I really don't understand why some people are so set upon "identifying" in what category others may or may not fit into.
What are your reasons ? I'd be interested on you elaborating if you wish.
There are a couple of posters who will pop up that I suspect are socks of Gotts. I singled one out the other day and never saw a follow up.
So it needs a referent IOW ?My reason for calling it invalid? There is no objective reference. It is a floating abstraction.
Why would God need to be limited to the supernatural world?
Sometimes I think we atheists take the concept of deities more serious than the theists.To distinguish God from something as mundane as a rock rolling downhill.
God becomes an entirely superfluous concept if it is simply associated with the natural world. There is no need for the concept anymore.
eudaimonia,
Mark
So it needs a referent IOW ?
Sometimes I think we atheists take the concept of deities more serious than the theists.
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