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Muslims seldom excel in anything, except in hate-mongering. I think there's only four Muslim Nobel Prizes (and maybe I am being too generous). I am not considering the Peace Nobel prize recipients because the Peace Nobel prize is a joke, even Obama got it.
I am not rejecting the Sufi Muslims as an example because mainstream Islam rejected them. I am rejecting them as an example because mainstream Islam is right when it says that Sufism does not reflect the teachings of Muhammad.
Certainly in the past 100 years or so Sufism has dwindled due both to the coming of modernism ( modernist Muslims often looked on them as backwards obstacles to modernization) and the growth of Salafism
One of the most respected and influential persons in all of Sunni history was a Sufi- Al Ghazali.
Another modern Islamic community that does a lot for the poor and to promote education, peace, and Democracy would be the Nizari Ismailis and their Imam the Agha Khan.
What are Sufi beliefs?
All of the things that you can find in "Answering Islam" and "Wikislam" can also be found in the Qur'an, the ahadith, and the various hate sites that belong to Islam. Muslims are the sole culprits of their negative image. Did "Answering Islam" flight those planes against the twin towers? Did "Wikislam" blow up the London subway? Were the Tsarnaev brothers a couple of islamophobes?
What a ludicrous argument! Did Muslims cause the Holocaust? Did they cause the genocide of the native Americans? Did they invent the Atomic Bomb and use it against civilians? Did they attack China because China wouldn't buy its opium?
What are you getting at ? A small minority of foreign soliders fighting for the overwealmingly christian majority nation of Germany came from Bosnia and happened to be Muslim. Even the majority of there foreign Waffen SS were Christian rather than Muslim. Are you jumping from that to blaiming Muslims for the holocaust? I would be embarrassed and feel hypocritical if I as a Christian made such a charge. Talk about chutzpah.
Some Arabs may have wanted the English to loose becsuse of anger over British collonialism but the had nmno hand in organizing or carrying out the holocaust. That was the creation of the Germans.
Next people will blame Muslims and Arabs for the genocide of the American Indians. We can pass off all European / christiandom sins on them. Muslims did it not us.
Islam inspired Hitler to organize the Holocaust. He said it.
Hypocrite. Christianity had nothing to do with the genocide of the American Indians. On the other hand, Islam is directly responsible for countless genocides.
Hypocrite. Christianity had nothing to do with the genocide of the American Indians. On the other hand, Islam is directly responsible for countless genocides.
PS: don't put "other church" in your profile, put the truth: Muslim.
Before and during the war, Nazi Germany made a concerted effort to win the hearts and minds of Muslims, relying on modern propaganda techniques that included short-wave radio broadcasts of Radio Berlin in Arabic and Persian. But sympathy for the Nazis across much of the Muslim world was more attributable to strong anti-British feelings among Arabs and Muslims than support for the Nazis' anti-Semitic policies.
Although for the vast majority of Muslims the war in Europe remained a distant conflict, the Nazis managed to recruit some Muslims directly. Two Muslim SS divisions were raised: the Skanderbeg Division from Albania and the Handschar Division from Bosnia. Smaller units from Chechnya to Uzbekistan were incorporated into the German armed forces. But the Nazis soon discovered that these units were militarily ineffective and unmotivated to fight for the Third Reich. The much-vaunted "Hanschar" SS division was disbanded after a few months due to mass desertions and earned the distinction of being the only SS division ever to mutiny.
Apology accepted, Crypto. Don't get me wrong, though. I do disagree with a lot of what you say.Ah, OK. That was a typo. I meant to say that Muhammad fondled Aisha since she was six. I was thinking about what the fatwa of the Shia says about fondling babies and I introduced the words wrongly. I admit my mistake.
Now, regarding the accepted age for marriage, Aristotle, who, as you know, lived approx. one thousand years before Muhammad, said that women should marry at age 18. Roman law, which is also much older than Islam, sets the age at a minimum of 12. Although 12 years of age is indeed a very young age, there is still a huge difference between 12 and 9 years of age. At 9 years of age women are nothing but children. Both ages are low, but the latter is an extraordinarily low age, even for Neanderthal standards. By the way, you are missing an important point: the historical context doesn't matter when it comes to the behavior of Muhammad, since he claimed to be the perfect example of a Muslim, for all eternity. It is written in the Qur'an. So, according to the Islamic community, having sex with a nine-year-old girl is perfectly acceptable, since their eternal moral standard, Muhammad, has done it. Aisha suffered a lot because of Muhammad. He robbed her of her childhood and she herself had admitted that she was afraid of him. Lots of children today are suffering the same destiny because of Islam.
When I said that people like you facilitate the crimes of Islam, I didn't know that I had committed that typo regarding the age of Aisha. I thought you were talking about my points in general. I apologize.
How is fondling defined in the Quran or hadiths? I would love to see you provide a reference.That's not the Islamic idea of fondling.
I really had no idea that the Quran or hadiths prohibit NFP. Please show me where they do so. Thanks.There is no such a thing as natural family planning in Islam.
Hypocrite. Christianity had nothing to do with the genocide of the American Indians. On the other hand, Islam is directly responsible for countless genocides.
PS: don't put "other church" in your profile, put the truth: Muslim.
Next people will blame Muslims and Arabs for the genocide of the American Indians. We can pass off all European / christiandom sins on them. Muslims did it not us.
This is a great source, WoodrowX. There were some Muslims who shamefully collaborated with the Nazis during the Holocaust and perpetrated terrible atrocities, as well as others who shamefully remained indifferent. There were also the heroes who stood up to them, some who paid for doing so with their lives.
Also, I am a third Native American and I am happy that the Europeans brought Christianity to this continent. Christianity outweighs all of the problems of the conquest.
England attacked China because of economical reasons. By the way, the selling of Opium in China was stopped due to the firm opposition of Christian missioners.
Coming back to the holocaust, Hitler was inspired by the Muslims.
The Armenians were the last Christians in Turkey.
As you know, the Muslims slaughtered almost two million Armenians, exclusively because the Armenians were Christians.
Furthermore, the Muslims fought alongside Hitler in the Second World War, simply because they sympathize with the idea of organizing a holocaust:
Aha, I knew it! These devious Muslims even built mosques that resembled churches to pretend it was Christians who were putting kids in residential schools, when it fact it was the imams (not priests) who were beating and abusing Native kids! They even went so far as to put crucifixes on their walls and put crosses on their Qurans so they looked like Bibles! It goes without saying that the people who ran the schools and threw people onto reservations were Arabs who spoke English and French, just to make the white man look bad!Shhh, Don't reveal that the Majority of Arabs living in the USA are Christians. It has only been in very recent years Arab Muslims began large scale migration to the US.
Of course we conquered the Native Americans. I know about 10 Native American Muslim Families on Pine Ridge Reservation.
My wife is also a Native American Muslim. Although she is Cheyenne and accepted Islam about 10 years ago.
That should suffice as proof it was us Muslims that devastated the Native Americans.
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