little_tigress said:
Sometimes when a girl says 'I just want to be friends' she actually means she just wants to be friends. And whats wrong with that?
nothing's wrong with that, guys want to be friends too!
I don't think it's the actual line that hurts, it's the rejection, of not having your feelings returned. I used to think that I would rather be told 'the truth' rather than the 'be friends', and that the truth would hurt less, but I've decided that if the person genuinely wanted to be friends then it would hurt far less. Firstly because I think no matter how it's done, getting turned down hurts (and personally I'd rather be friendship material than "eww get away from me" material
). Secondly: eventually I'll get over the feelings and move on, and I would rather have a friend than not. However I think there's a different between: "I just want to be friends." and "I don't want to ruin our friendship". The former is ok, the latter is not.
little_tigress said:
lots of women want to just be friends with guys before starting anything more serious. And even if the friendship never develops into anything romantic, you can always use a good friend.
Although it may not seem like it, this is essentially leading a guy on. How can a guy be expected to know that things have changed? If a girl is one that just wants to be friends before starting anything, how is a guy supposed to know when that friendship point is reached? I have no sympathy for anyone who turns someone down then later has the unrequited love reversed.
I'm generally not attracted to anyone romantically unless we're friends, so I have struggled with finding the right time to ask. Once I waited too long and got told that she valued our friendship so much she didn't want to risk ruining it, and another time I asked too soon and got told that she "wasn't ready for a relationship". So now I work like this: as soon as I decide that I really like a girl I ask her out. If she says yes, then it's the right time. If she says no, then it's not the right time and I can move on, no uncertainty.