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"THOUGH the knowledge and obedience of the doctrine of the Cross of Christ be of infinite moment to the souls of men, for that is the only door to true Christianity, and that path the ancients ever trod to blessedness; yet, with extreme affliction let me say, it is so little understood, so much neglected, and, what is worse, so bitterly contradicted by the vanity, superstition, and intemperance of professed Christians, that we must either renounce to believe what the Lord Jesus hath told us, that whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after Him, cannot be his disciple (Luke 24: 27); or, admitting that for truth, conclude, that the generality of Christendom do miserably deceive and disappoint themselves in the great business of Christianity, and their own salvation." (William Penn 1682)

We live in a day of whitewashed Christianity and behind the counterfeit are dead men's bones. I look around and see very little fear of the Lord anymore, very little conviction of the Holy Spirit that is reverently adhered to, and a real lack of true repentance where the fruit of surrender and obedience can be seen. I know this is not all Christians, for God has His remnant, but I see the whitewashed majority of this last hour. It is indeed the midnight hour. God is love, He is mercy, and His grace abounds forever, but where is the fear of the Lord in the midst of a world full of pleasure? Where is the conviction of the Holy Spirit where believers lament over their sin, and are torn within because of the bondage and sin that so easily besets them. Where is the agonizing to be set free, to enter the narrow gait, and they will not relent until they have touched Him and are changed? They profess to know Him. Do they know Him? Are they willing to take up their cross, die to themselves, and follow Him? Christianity isn't an easy one time deal where you say the sinners prayer and forget the rest of Christ' commands. Christianity is a continual intimate relationship with Jesus Christ allowing Him to change us into His likeness. It isn't easy, there is a cross to bear upon our souls. We want the crown, His gifts and goodness, grace and glory, forgiveness and mercy, but we skip over the cross of sanctification that keeps us. Christs blood comes at a cost and we must count the cost of the cross.

Mat 16:24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me.
Mat 16:25 For whoever desires to save his life shall lose it, and whoever desires to lose his life for My sake shall find it.
Mat 16:26 For what is a man profited if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Mat 16:27 For the Son of Man shall come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He shall reward each one according to his works.
 
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1972 he left and left truth your outside looking for what is in you. Christ isn't outside you, sleep you are looking outside.

God is your own wonderful human imagination? What are you imagining, it will come to pass? I am God the Father? God is man and man is God?

Someone can quote Scripture to me left and right but if it doesn't line up with the Word (logos, teaching) of God, then I reject it as false. Jesus is the Word (logos, teaching) come in flesh , not imagination (John 1:1). I am not God, and no human being will ever be God. We are his creation and He is God alone.

"The heart (inner part, mind, knowledge thinking, reflection) is DECEITFUL above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? I the Lord search the heart , I examine the mind, to reward each person according to their conduct, according to what their deeds deserve." (Jeremiah 17:9,10)

God Almighty is the only one who can know the mind. Not all deeds, or imaginations, are of God, and must be scrutinized under the authority of God's word.

" All scripture is give by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness; so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." (2 Timothy 3:16,17)

Scripture is the written Word of God given to us to guide and keep us in his truth. He is the truth and anything that points me in a direction outside of His word, I reject - because I have an cunning adversary who would like to mislead me (1Peter 5:8)

"Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth. But avoid worldly and empty chatter, for it will lead to further ungodliness." (1Timothy 2:15,16)

Just because someone teaches a belief using scripture doesn't make it true. We must spiritually discern between truth and error through His written Word.

"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." (2 Corinthians 11:13-15)
 
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God is your own wonderful human imagination? What are you imagining, it will come to pass? I am God the Father? God is man and man is God?

Someone can quote Scripture to me left and right but if it doesn't line up with the Word (logos, teaching) of God, then I reject it as false. Jesus is the Word (logos, teaching) come in flesh , not imagination (John 1:1). I am not God, and no human being will ever be God. We are his creation and He is God alone.

"The heart (inner part, mind, knowledge thinking, reflection) is DECEITFUL above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? I the Lord search the heart , I examine the mind, to reward each person according to their conduct, according to what their deeds deserve." (Jeremiah 17:9,10)

God Almighty is the only one who can know the mind. Not all deeds, or imaginations, are of God, and must be scrutinized under the authority of God's word.

" All scripture is give by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness; so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." (2 Timothy 3:16,17)

Scripture is the written Word of God given to us to guide and keep us in his truth. He is the truth and anything that points me in a direction outside of His word, I reject - because I have an cunning adversary who would like to mislead me (1Peter 5:8)

"Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth. But avoid worldly and empty chatter, for it will lead to further ungodliness." (1Timothy 2:15,16)

Just because someone teaches a belief using scripture doesn't make it true. We must spiritually discern between truth and error through His written Word.

"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." (2 Corinthians 11:13-15)
Many times I have been asked if I believe there was once a man called Jesus, and I always answer, “No.” I did believe it, but I no longer believe in the historicity of any character of scripture, for I encounter them as personified states. I have entered the final state, which is Jesus, and in that state it was revealed to me that I AM Jesus and Christ is my son. Christ, my creative power and wisdom, is the one who was anointed with the oil of gladness and called David. It was in the spirit that David called Jesus, Father. He does not do this in flesh for, if you take the events chronologically you will see that they are separated in time by one thousand years . . and I tell you the story is contemporary. It is not something of the past. The Lord Jesus is with you now at this very moment, for he is your very being, your reality. We are told that he is a Father in the 17th chapter of John, as: “Holy Father, keep them in thy name that thou hast given me, that they may be one even as we are one.” The Father/son is an inner action relationship. At one moment the son is speaking, and the next moment it is the Father who speaks; then without warning he jumps back to that of the son, and man is confused. Man thinks of one being of flesh and blood when it is an inner-relationship of Father/son.
 
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"THOUGH the knowledge and obedience of the doctrine of the Cross of Christ be of infinite moment to the souls of men, for that is the only door to true Christianity, and that path the ancients ever trod to blessedness; yet, with extreme affliction let me say, it is so little understood, so much neglected, and, what is worse, so bitterly contradicted by the vanity, superstition, and intemperance of professed Christians, that we must either renounce to believe what the Lord Jesus hath told us, that whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after Him, cannot be his disciple (Luke 24: 27); or, admitting that for truth, conclude, that the generality of Christendom do miserably deceive and disappoint themselves in the great business of Christianity, and their own salvation." (William Penn 1682)

We live in a day of whitewashed Christianity and behind the counterfeit are dead men's bones. I look around and see very little fear of the Lord anymore, very little conviction of the Holy Spirit that is reverently adhered to, and a real lack of true repentance where the fruit of surrender and obedience can be seen. I know this is not all Christians, for God has His remnant, but I see the whitewashed majority of this last hour. It is indeed the midnight hour. God is love, He is mercy, and His grace abounds forever, but where is the fear of the Lord in the midst of a world full of pleasure? ...
I am sorry but what exactly do you mean by the "Doctrine of the Cross of Christ"?
 
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