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<blockquote data-quote="joey_downunder" data-source="post: 58597570" data-attributes="member: 242214"><p>Whatever you put before God is your own personal god. An atheist makes SELF their own god. Who do they live to please? Themselves of course. If you have lived as an atheist you have lived to put yourself first. That can include moral things like caring for one's family not just obvious sins because that atheist is looking after their own best interests. </p><p></p><p>Don't worry about that lack of experience of feeling love. Love is a doing word. <a href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1+corinthians+13%3A4-8/" target="_blank">1 corinthians 13:4-8/</a> Look at what Jesus did for mankind objectively. Did that demonstrate actual love?</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Not one person on this planet alive right now knows God the way you want to know Him personally. It is by faith alone that we get a glimpse of God's goodness. How does that faith start? Through hearing the word of God and believing the Gospel. <a href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/romans+10%3A14-17/" target="_blank">romans 10:14-17/</a> What you genuinely desire will only happen in the <em>next life</em> if you believe in Christ. <a href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1+corinthians+13%3A9-12/" target="_blank">1 corinthians 13:9-12/</a></p><p></p><p>There is no way you can please God in your own strength anyway. You are a sinner. That you have in common with every person on Earth.</p><p>You can only serve the true God by believing in Jesus and what He did for you and responding to Jesus' sacrifice for your sins accordingly. </p><p> </p><p></p><p>That again demonstrates how much Biblical knowledge you have. You could potentially be a wonderful servant of God. </p><p></p><p>Yes. If you don't believe in God, by default you serve Satan. <a href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Hebrews%2011%3A6/" target="_blank">Hebrews 11:6/</a></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Yes it is. This is an area can be hard to reconcile with the image of a loving God and is used by many atheists and even christians to reject God and/or remake God in their own image. </p><p> </p><p>According to the Bible God is a perfect and holy God as well as a loving God. God cannot and will not tolerate sinfulness in His presence. Through Jesus being made a sacrifice for our sins <a href="http://www.esvbible.org/Hebrews+10/" target="_blank">Hebrews 10</a> God has decreed that all who believe in Christ - no matter how sinful they may have been or will be - are made acceptable and even holy in God's sight. <a href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/romans+5-6/" target="_blank">romans 5-6/</a> TO those who believe in Jesus God gives His Holy Spirit which enables us to keep His commandments that we could never possibly ever do in our own strength. <a href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/romans+8%3A1-11/" target="_blank">romans 8:1-11/</a></p><p></p><p>This has actually been the one issue that has made me question if you <em>ever </em>were a genuine Christian. Everything you have said sounds like you agree with the <a href="http://www.creeds.net/ancient/nicene.htm" target="_blank">nicene creed</a> until the very last sentence. </p><p>...<span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>And we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.</strong></span> </p><p> </p><p>Other than not experiencing feelings of repentance - that may be unlikely to happen since you have never experienced emotions - you have consistently dismissed the idea of Heaven or eternal life that Jesus Himself promised just because you don't feel like you have a spirit. How do you explain away obvious passages like <a href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/john+14%3A1-4/" target="_blank">john 14:1-4/</a>, <a href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20Corinthians%2015/" target="_blank">1 Corinthians 15/</a>, <a href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Revelation%2021/" target="_blank">Revelation 21/</a> as well as the many mentions of Heaven by Jesus Himself?</p><p> </p><p></p><p>You need to look up faith and salvation in your bible and see for yourself that faith in Christ is what will save you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joey_downunder, post: 58597570, member: 242214"] Whatever you put before God is your own personal god. An atheist makes SELF their own god. Who do they live to please? Themselves of course. If you have lived as an atheist you have lived to put yourself first. That can include moral things like caring for one's family not just obvious sins because that atheist is looking after their own best interests. Don't worry about that lack of experience of feeling love. Love is a doing word. [URL="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1+corinthians+13%3A4-8/"]1 corinthians 13:4-8/[/URL] Look at what Jesus did for mankind objectively. Did that demonstrate actual love? Not one person on this planet alive right now knows God the way you want to know Him personally. It is by faith alone that we get a glimpse of God's goodness. How does that faith start? Through hearing the word of God and believing the Gospel. [URL="http://www.esvbible.org/search/romans+10%3A14-17/"]romans 10:14-17/[/URL] What you genuinely desire will only happen in the [I]next life[/I] if you believe in Christ. [URL="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1+corinthians+13%3A9-12/"]1 corinthians 13:9-12/[/URL] There is no way you can please God in your own strength anyway. You are a sinner. That you have in common with every person on Earth. You can only serve the true God by believing in Jesus and what He did for you and responding to Jesus' sacrifice for your sins accordingly. [I][/I] That again demonstrates how much Biblical knowledge you have. You could potentially be a wonderful servant of God. Yes. If you don't believe in God, by default you serve Satan. [URL="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Hebrews%2011%3A6/"]Hebrews 11:6/[/URL] Yes it is. This is an area can be hard to reconcile with the image of a loving God and is used by many atheists and even christians to reject God and/or remake God in their own image. According to the Bible God is a perfect and holy God as well as a loving God. God cannot and will not tolerate sinfulness in His presence. Through Jesus being made a sacrifice for our sins [URL="http://www.esvbible.org/Hebrews+10/"]Hebrews 10[/URL] God has decreed that all who believe in Christ - no matter how sinful they may have been or will be - are made acceptable and even holy in God's sight. [URL="http://www.esvbible.org/search/romans+5-6/"]romans 5-6/[/URL] TO those who believe in Jesus God gives His Holy Spirit which enables us to keep His commandments that we could never possibly ever do in our own strength. [URL="http://www.esvbible.org/search/romans+8%3A1-11/"]romans 8:1-11/[/URL] This has actually been the one issue that has made me question if you [I]ever [/I]were a genuine Christian. Everything you have said sounds like you agree with the [URL="http://www.creeds.net/ancient/nicene.htm"]nicene creed[/URL] until the very last sentence. ...[FONT=Arial][B]And we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.[/B][/FONT] Other than not experiencing feelings of repentance - that may be unlikely to happen since you have never experienced emotions - you have consistently dismissed the idea of Heaven or eternal life that Jesus Himself promised just because you don't feel like you have a spirit. How do you explain away obvious passages like [URL="http://www.esvbible.org/search/john+14%3A1-4/"]john 14:1-4/[/URL], [URL="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20Corinthians%2015/"]1 Corinthians 15/[/URL], [URL="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Revelation%2021/"]Revelation 21/[/URL] as well as the many mentions of Heaven by Jesus Himself? You need to look up faith and salvation in your bible and see for yourself that faith in Christ is what will save you. [/QUOTE]
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