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<blockquote data-quote="losthope" data-source="post: 58446440" data-attributes="member: 94863"><p>To Hospes,</p><p></p><p>You wrote this:</p><p></p><p></p><p>There is no rush for you to respond. I know what it is like to be busy. So, go ahead and ask your questions.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>What I meant was that I would recognise that it was the Holy Spirit convicting me of sin. However, the result could be that I recognise sin for what it is as well, not from my point of view but something of the way that God sees sin. Now I can recognise sin, but I do not get passionate about it to the extent that I have a desperate need for forgiveness and salvation.</p><p></p><p>Maybe my explanation means that I do not need to answer your two questions. But I will say that I am quite able to recognise sin, and to call something good or evil, mostly based on the motivation of the person or people concerned, on the obvious consequences of their actions, and on their attitude to how it may affect other people. That is my recognition of good and evil, and I realise that God may regard things differently.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am beginning to wonder if you are hinting that a person who does not know God, would have no conception of good and evil. However, to answer your question, it is related to what I wrote about good and evil, and the importance of the consequences of actions and the effects on other people. If something that I have done is wrong, and it has affected someone else badly, then I would want to apologise and to make it up to them. It is not just conforming to expected behaviour; it is trying to live up to my ideas of right and wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh yes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Romans 3:11 is quoting from the Old Testament, saying that nobody is seeking God. There is nothing about God motivating them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I would not ask God to give me the ability to feel emotions. Mainly because if I had emotions and then had what appeared to be spiritual experiences, I would then know for certain that it was just the emotions and not from God. And that would probably make me turn my back on God for good. Indeed, with the motivation and passion that having emotions would give me, I could even work enthusiastically to persuade Christians that they also did not really know God.</p><p></p><p>If I am going to find God, it would have to be as I am now, without emotions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If only...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="losthope, post: 58446440, member: 94863"] To Hospes, You wrote this: There is no rush for you to respond. I know what it is like to be busy. So, go ahead and ask your questions. What I meant was that I would recognise that it was the Holy Spirit convicting me of sin. However, the result could be that I recognise sin for what it is as well, not from my point of view but something of the way that God sees sin. Now I can recognise sin, but I do not get passionate about it to the extent that I have a desperate need for forgiveness and salvation. Maybe my explanation means that I do not need to answer your two questions. But I will say that I am quite able to recognise sin, and to call something good or evil, mostly based on the motivation of the person or people concerned, on the obvious consequences of their actions, and on their attitude to how it may affect other people. That is my recognition of good and evil, and I realise that God may regard things differently. I am beginning to wonder if you are hinting that a person who does not know God, would have no conception of good and evil. However, to answer your question, it is related to what I wrote about good and evil, and the importance of the consequences of actions and the effects on other people. If something that I have done is wrong, and it has affected someone else badly, then I would want to apologise and to make it up to them. It is not just conforming to expected behaviour; it is trying to live up to my ideas of right and wrong. Oh yes. Romans 3:11 is quoting from the Old Testament, saying that nobody is seeking God. There is nothing about God motivating them. No, I would not ask God to give me the ability to feel emotions. Mainly because if I had emotions and then had what appeared to be spiritual experiences, I would then know for certain that it was just the emotions and not from God. And that would probably make me turn my back on God for good. Indeed, with the motivation and passion that having emotions would give me, I could even work enthusiastically to persuade Christians that they also did not really know God. If I am going to find God, it would have to be as I am now, without emotions. If only... [/QUOTE]
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