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<blockquote data-quote="joey_downunder" data-source="post: 58376412" data-attributes="member: 242214"><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">We would all love some response from God when we are spiritually struggling I certainly sympathise, no EMPATHISE with you there. For whatever reason God at this point in time has chosen <em>for both of u</em>s not to experience things as other Christians seem to all the time. Many other Christians do not understand our predicament. It is b****y hard when everyone seems to have spiritual gifts and prayers handed to them on a platter and in comparison we dont even get the crumbs. Like me you would really have to walk by faith in God not by sight. Other Christians say it as a mere platitude to you, I do not. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">You have been able to work. You have had a successful marriage. You have lived in a country that still provides relatively free medical care. The next sentence concerns me were these unsupportive people close to you?</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Yes what a difficult lesson to learn. What a difficult lesson you are learning right now. Can you take a step back and think of how many other people out there would be able to manage what you are going through? You may not feel you are strong. As a Christian you would have Gods strength. </span></span><a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=2+timothy+1%3A7" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #0000ff">2 timothy 1:7</span></span></span></a><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"> I would not be able to type as I do to you now while remembering the Bible verses as I go (keywords/topic is what makes me remember) without His help. I would not know as much about what is available online for Christians without online librarian training and trying to understand Christianity properly now nearly all spiritual type feelings have gone permanently. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Remember what the apostle Paul had to go through. </span></span><a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=2+Corinthians+12%3A1-10" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #0000ff">2 Corinthians 12:1-10</span></span></span></a><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"> Yes BUT he did hear from God I can see you type. Paul was expected to evangelise to a huge amount of people especially the Gentiles. He wrote many books in the New Testament so of course he had to know Jesus directly in person like the other original disciples. Have you or I had to do anything like that? </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">I used to consider myself Charismatic as well. The fervour and sincerity of the people was such a contrast to the traditional Catholic Church. The biggest problem I have with them now is more doctrinal rather than the place of emotions in worship. It is the subtle shift from Bible plus experiences to Experiences plus the bible to Experiences with a couple of Bible verses to back up the eligibility of Experiences to be classified as Christian. (I only noticed that after I had gone back to church well after the surgery). That is a completely different topic however. I dont think any denomination is without its faults because all denominations have people in them. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">Well there you go! If you are capable of change in those areas then why not spiritual areas as well? </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joey_downunder, post: 58376412, member: 242214"] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][/SIZE][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]We would all love some response from God when we are spiritually struggling I certainly sympathise, no EMPATHISE with you there. For whatever reason God at this point in time has chosen [I]for both of u[/I]s not to experience things as other Christians seem to all the time. Many other Christians do not understand our predicament. It is b****y hard when everyone seems to have spiritual gifts and prayers handed to them on a platter and in comparison we dont even get the crumbs. Like me you would really have to walk by faith in God not by sight. Other Christians say it as a mere platitude to you, I do not. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]You have been able to work. You have had a successful marriage. You have lived in a country that still provides relatively free medical care. The next sentence concerns me were these unsupportive people close to you?[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]Yes what a difficult lesson to learn. What a difficult lesson you are learning right now. Can you take a step back and think of how many other people out there would be able to manage what you are going through? You may not feel you are strong. As a Christian you would have Gods strength. [/FONT][/SIZE][URL="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=2+timothy+1%3A7"][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#0000ff]2 timothy 1:7[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri] I would not be able to type as I do to you now while remembering the Bible verses as I go (keywords/topic is what makes me remember) without His help. I would not know as much about what is available online for Christians without online librarian training and trying to understand Christianity properly now nearly all spiritual type feelings have gone permanently. [/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Remember what the apostle Paul had to go through. [/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=2+Corinthians+12%3A1-10"][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#0000ff]2 Corinthians 12:1-10[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri] Yes BUT he did hear from God I can see you type. Paul was expected to evangelise to a huge amount of people especially the Gentiles. He wrote many books in the New Testament so of course he had to know Jesus directly in person like the other original disciples. Have you or I had to do anything like that? [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]I used to consider myself Charismatic as well. The fervour and sincerity of the people was such a contrast to the traditional Catholic Church. The biggest problem I have with them now is more doctrinal rather than the place of emotions in worship. It is the subtle shift from Bible plus experiences to Experiences plus the bible to Experiences with a couple of Bible verses to back up the eligibility of Experiences to be classified as Christian. (I only noticed that after I had gone back to church well after the surgery). That is a completely different topic however. I dont think any denomination is without its faults because all denominations have people in them. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]Well there you go! If you are capable of change in those areas then why not spiritual areas as well? [/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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