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<blockquote data-quote="joey_downunder" data-source="post: 58042344" data-attributes="member: 242214"><p>*humph* Here you have returned to a christian forum after years of loss of faith, and asking for how to receive real feelings of conviction of sin. </p><p>"Just by chance" you have a christian respondee who has:</p><p>1. had brain surgery that has removed nearly all spiritual feelings that caused a major crisis in faith lasting approx 7 years</p><p>2. that same respondee is able to converse with you several times per day because her kids "just happen" to be on holidays and her non-christian husband "just happens" to be on a major army exercise for a month.... </p><p>Time for you to read the joke about <a href="http://www.cafemom.com/journals/read/487979/A_Religous_Joke_A_man_a_boat_and_god" target="_blank">A man, a boat, and god </a><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>I would say a lot of genuine christians mistake some emotional experiences for spiritual ones and vice versa. Mistaking emotional responses for genuine spiritual conversion would also explain why some people who claimed they made a decision for Christ and go to church for decades can still later become atheists, and not just mere agnostics -fundamentalist atheists out to deconvert any christian they can! </p><p> </p><p>When I got involved with that women's Bible study group in 2007 I felt like I was always asking them "how they knew God was talking to them" because I had lost all sense of God's presence and special personal messages etc. None of their answers satisfied me. They just knew, they felt it was not from them, it made them feel so much better etc. At the end of the year when my husband got posted to a very remote mining town area I did not have any christian fellowship at all. However thanks to the internet I listened to so many sermons and discernment shows via mp3 - again "just by chance" happening to explain why I had been rightly suspicious about everything they had been telling me. I have realised feelings can actually be a real hinderance to true faith because people start looking for the gifts not the Giver. That is a completely different subject altogether and would be better on another thread. </p><p> </p><p></p><p>Yes, Jesus knows who His sheep are. His sheep believe in Him, and they demonstrate that faith by seeking to please Him and follow his commandments. <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=psalm+119" target="_blank">psalm 119 </a>The poet does use emotional words (as expected in poetry) but the poet is demonstrating, doing, working to please God. No talk about trying to feel repentant before he feels he can qualify as a believer. </p><p> </p><p></p><p>I am sure she knows you love her by the way you do things for her, even if you personally may not actually be experiencing any real feelings while doing those things.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joey_downunder, post: 58042344, member: 242214"] *humph* Here you have returned to a christian forum after years of loss of faith, and asking for how to receive real feelings of conviction of sin. "Just by chance" you have a christian respondee who has: 1. had brain surgery that has removed nearly all spiritual feelings that caused a major crisis in faith lasting approx 7 years 2. that same respondee is able to converse with you several times per day because her kids "just happen" to be on holidays and her non-christian husband "just happens" to be on a major army exercise for a month.... Time for you to read the joke about [URL="http://www.cafemom.com/journals/read/487979/A_Religous_Joke_A_man_a_boat_and_god"]A man, a boat, and god [/URL]:P I would say a lot of genuine christians mistake some emotional experiences for spiritual ones and vice versa. Mistaking emotional responses for genuine spiritual conversion would also explain why some people who claimed they made a decision for Christ and go to church for decades can still later become atheists, and not just mere agnostics -fundamentalist atheists out to deconvert any christian they can! When I got involved with that women's Bible study group in 2007 I felt like I was always asking them "how they knew God was talking to them" because I had lost all sense of God's presence and special personal messages etc. None of their answers satisfied me. They just knew, they felt it was not from them, it made them feel so much better etc. At the end of the year when my husband got posted to a very remote mining town area I did not have any christian fellowship at all. However thanks to the internet I listened to so many sermons and discernment shows via mp3 - again "just by chance" happening to explain why I had been rightly suspicious about everything they had been telling me. I have realised feelings can actually be a real hinderance to true faith because people start looking for the gifts not the Giver. That is a completely different subject altogether and would be better on another thread. Yes, Jesus knows who His sheep are. His sheep believe in Him, and they demonstrate that faith by seeking to please Him and follow his commandments. [URL="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=psalm+119"]psalm 119 [/URL]The poet does use emotional words (as expected in poetry) but the poet is demonstrating, doing, working to please God. No talk about trying to feel repentant before he feels he can qualify as a believer. I am sure she knows you love her by the way you do things for her, even if you personally may not actually be experiencing any real feelings while doing those things. [/QUOTE]
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