New theory about how it all started

[Pulchra]

My older theory was that when all energy was gathered in just one lump sort of, it collapsed under it`s on weight and spread out like an explosion almost, but to have a final amount of something would be arbetrary in the universe, it has to be infinite amounts of it, so the theory people have that everything`s gonna be dark and empty one day, is most likely wrong, energy that everything consists of is probably infinite, but where does it come from then? Well, thats the big questions really, where does the thing everything consists of come from really, is it like a hole from another dimention or universe just spewing out infinite amounts of it?

 

[Ophiolite]

Well, since this is the Science section of the forum it would be as well to point out that you don't have a theory in the scientific sense. Nor, unfortunately, do you even have a hypothesis. What you have is a vague, wavy speculation. There is nothing wrong with vague, wavy speculations. It is possible that some hypotheses and even an odd theory or two may have started this way, but they are not themselves really science.
If it would be of any use to you I can point out some of the weak points in your idea. Or, if you prefer, I can just disappear into darkness at the edge of the universe.

 

[Pulchra]

Well, since this is the Science section of the forum it would be as well to point out that you don't have a theory in the scientific sense. Nor, unfortunately, do you even have a hypothesis. What you have is a vague, wavy speculation. There is nothing wrong with vague, wavy speculations. It is possible that some hypotheses and even an odd theory or two may have started this way, but they are not themselves really science.
If it would be of any use to you I can point out some of the weak points in your idea. Or, if you prefer, I can just disappear into darkness at the edge of the universe.

hehe be my guest to point out the flaws

 

[Petros2015]

The really weird thing is that acceleration is being detected.
They were trying find out if the Universe was expanding or collapsing.
(Einstein expected it to be Static, he was surprised)
Definitely expanding.
But... accelerating expansion.
HUH?!?
I was lying in bed trying to think of if there any physical allegory to describe or ponder that a little. Really not sure.
Maybe if you thought of like a fountain or volcano
With the universe exploding from the base
The 'water' would sort of crest
And then accelerate back down.
I really have no idea though
Something else seems to be acting on it though.

 

[Petros2015]

Yeah here's a graphic related to the topic that actually captures a little of what I was saying.
It *does* kind of look like a fountain.

 

[Larniavc]

My older theory was that when all energy was gathered in just one lump sort of, it collapsed under it`s on weight and spread out like an explosion almost, but to have a final amount of something would be arbetrary in the universe, it has to be infinite amounts of it, so the theory people have that everything`s gonna be dark and empty one day, is most likely wrong, energy that everything consists of is probably infinite, but where does it come from then? Well, thats the big questions really, where does the thing everything consists of come from really, is it like a hole from another dimention or universe just spewing out infinite amounts of it?

Where did all that energy come from and how did it collapse?

 

[Subduction Zone]

hehe be my guest to point out the flaws

He already did. That you did not understand them does not bode well for you.


Science is based upon testable hypotheses. What reasonable test could possibly refute your "theory"? If you don't have one all you have is idle speculation. That is not science.

 

[Larniavc]

I was lying in bed trying to think of if there any physical allegory to describe or ponder that a little.

I think that might be where you are going wrong. My understanding is that you would need to describe it mathematically.

Can you detail the maths you have done, here.

 

[Pulchra]

Where did all that energy come from and how did it collapse?

Thats the big question where it came from, but after my own theory it collapses of it`s own weight, people don`t really explain how energy has the ability to do things, so I thought perhaps it collapsed on under it`s own weigth and spread out and therefore have the power to make things move

 

[Subduction Zone]

Thats the big question where it came from, but after my own theory it collapses of it`s own weight

Even though your theory has no weight you are right about one thing. It simply collapses.

Back to the drawing board.

 

[Petros2015]

Can you detail the maths you have done, here.

100% a thought exercise with no math lol.
Math is great for proofs though
Einstein did plenty of thought exercises with no math so I have no shame - he didn't publish them as fact or even theory without the math though.
You'll get my math when I'm published

 

[Pulchra]

Even though your theory has no weight you are right about one thing. It simply collapses.

Back to the drawing board.

Yes, but they don`t explain how energy has the ability to do work, I think it`s from the collapse itself, it forces it out so it does the work

 

[Pulchra]

100% a thought exercise with no math lol.
Math is great for proofs though
Einstein did plenty of thought exercises with no math so I have no shame - he didn't publish them as fact without the math though.
You'll get my math when I'm published

There`s one flaw with math itself, it has infinite decimals after comma, so it`s not accurate

 

[Petros2015]

Hmmm. I really don't know.
But here, watch this...

After you are done, pretend you are a Calvinist who believes in predestination
Really gear up for the debate
And pick a fight with a non-Calvinist
See what happens

 

[GirdYourLoins]

The Bible says God flung the stars into space by His hand. To me this is a central point that He flung them from, the big bang theory is based ion evidence that we can see and measure that the universe is expanding from a central point.

Dark matter is a theory to explain that the universe is still expanding but with everything we know about physics it shouldnt be. So dark matter that we cant see, feel, or perceive or detect in any way was invented. Maybe it could be the creative power of God causing the universe to continue expanding. Dark matter is just the name given to it.

 

[Petros2015]

Hmmm. I really don't know.
But here, watch this...

The above is actually really interesting though when you add in the idea of accelerated expansion...

at 6:00 he talks about "watch what happens when the alien hops on his bike and moves directly away"
well... the "alien" IS moving directly away due to accelerated expansion between the alien's galaxy and ours, at such a speed no bicycle could hope to overcome.
at 6:30 he talks about "across such vast distances"
well... the vast distances are increasing... in fact, the rate of increase of the distances is increasing...
the direction is *always* away

So what does that mean in the context of the Now-Slices...

 

[Petros2015]

There`s one flaw with math itself, it has infinite decimals after comma, so it`s not accurate

Enjoy

 

[St_Worm2]

...they don`t explain how energy has the ability to do work, I think its from the collapse itself, it forces it out so it does the work.

Hello Pulchra, of course the next question to ask would be "why" is the energy doing the particular work that it is doing (unless you believe that "energy" is a being of some sort itself, with both a mind and a will of its own)?

Perhaps figuring out where energy originated would answer the secondary questions as well(?)

--David

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes, but they don`t explain how energy has the ability to do work, I think it`s from the collapse itself, it forces it out so it does the work

You explain even less. Don't complain. Hand waving is not an explanation.

 

[Petros2015]

Dark matter is a theory to explain that the universe is still expanding but with everything we know about physics it shouldnt be. So dark matter that we cant see, feel, or perceive or detect in any way was invented. Maybe it could be the creative power of God causing the universe to continue expanding. Dark matter is just the name given to it.

Psalm 97:2 "Clouds and thick darkness surround him"

If I said "Clouds and Dark Matter surround him" I might have a Universe that agrees with a Psalm

I mean, if I wanted that sort of thing...