New GOP efforts to make it harder to vote

mark46 · Mar 2, 2021

TLK Valentine said:
Isn't that the point of the bill -- making it harder for voters to participate in Democracy?

The point is to try to reduce the number of voters who oppose those in power. This has happened in the South since the Civil War. Of course, before 1964, it was the Democrats in charge.

States have every right to decide about voter ID's (as long they are easily available) and about absentee balloting. The key for Democrats is to fight through the courts for access, which needs to include many more voting sites and longer hours on election day. Obviously, the most important thing is to register folks and make sure that large numbers vote on Election Day.

TLK Valentine · Mar 3, 2021

mark46 said:
The point is to try to reduce the number of voters who oppose those in power. This has happened in the South since the Civil War. Of course, before 1964, it was the Democrats in charge.

It was wrong when the Dems did it before 1964, and it's wrong for the GOP to do it today.

States have every right to decide about voter ID's (as long they are easily available) and about absentee balloting. The key for Democrats is to fight through the courts for access, which needs to include many more voting sites and longer hours on election day. Obviously, the most important thing is to register folks and make sure that large numbers vote on Election Day.

...Which is what makes laws such as the For the People Act so important.
Which also explains why the GOP is so against it.

98cwitr · Mar 3, 2021

Arcangl86 said:
President Trump publicly supported (or at least gave lip service to) the idea of Congress passing some sort of protections for Dreamers in exchange for his wall. Only one example granted, but a really prominent one.

And I supported neither. The wall is, and always was, a tax spending bandaid failing to address the underlying root causes.

Did Biden cancel all wall construction yet?

cow451 · Mar 3, 2021

98cwitr said:
And I supported neither. The wall is, and always was, a tax spending bandaid failing to address the underlying root causes.

Agreed

Arcangl86 · Mar 3, 2021

98cwitr said:
And I supported neither. The wall is, and always was, a tax spending bandaid failing to address the underlying root causes.

Did Biden cancel all wall construction yet?

No, and he was never going to. Strategic walls are part of his plan, as well as other technology. Put the point of my post was to point out that supporting DACA and supporting the Wall were not mutually exclusive.

98cwitr · Mar 3, 2021

Arcangl86 said:
No, and he was never going to. Strategic walls are part of his plan, as well as other technology. Put the point of my post was to point out that supporting DACA and supporting the Wall were not mutually exclusive.

In August, he said he would not build "another foot of border wall"

cow451 · Mar 3, 2021

98cwitr said:
In August, he said he would not build "another foot of border wall"

Well, Mexico's credit report wasn't so great.

98cwitr · Mar 3, 2021

cow451 said:
Well, Mexico's credit report wasn't so great.

Biden seems to have zero issue with spending tax payer dollars though. Mexico's money seems to be a non-sequitur now.

Desk trauma · Mar 3, 2021

98cwitr said:
Biden seems to have zero issue with spending tax payer dollars though. Mexico's money seems to be a non-sequitur now.

Always was. Short of war there was no mechanism to force them to pick up the bill.

98cwitr · Mar 3, 2021

Desk trauma said:
Always was. Short of war there was no mechanism to force them to pick up the bill.

True! Hence why it's going to take the states to call an Article V convention to propose a balanced budget amendment.

TLK Valentine · Mar 3, 2021

98cwitr said:
Did Biden cancel all wall construction yet?

Yes, he did, as a matter of fact. Biden canceled the "national emergency" against immigration which Donald used to funnel money from the military for his wall.

Proclamation on the Termination Of Emergency With Respect To The Southern Border Of The United States And Redirection Of Funds Diverted To Border Wall Construction | The White House

No "emergency" = no funding.
No funding = no construction.

Desk trauma · Mar 3, 2021

98cwitr said:
True! Hence why it's going to take the states to call an Article V convention to propose a balanced budget amendment.

Unrelated hobby horse is unrelated.

cow451 · Mar 3, 2021

98cwitr said:
Biden seems to have zero issue with spending tax payer dollars though. Mexico's money seems to be a non-sequitur now.

Mexico's money was never a sequiter, anyway. EX President Trump has always loved spending other people's money.

TLK Valentine · Mar 3, 2021

98cwitr said:
True! Hence why it's going to take the states to call an Article V convention to propose a balanced budget amendment.

Lots of luck -- how many states have balanced budgets themselves?

98cwitr · Mar 3, 2021

TLK Valentine said:
Lots of luck -- how many states have balanced budgets themselves?

NASBO considers 46 states to have constitutional or statutory balanced-budget requirements.

PolitiFact - Sen. John Cornyn says 49 states have a balanced budget amendment in their state constitutions

TLK Valentine · Mar 3, 2021

98cwitr said:
PolitiFact - Sen. John Cornyn says 49 states have a balanced budget amendment in their state constitutions

That's a refreshing thought -- although it leaves me to wonder how many of those balanced budgets are relying on their federal aid in order to stay out of the red.

Which States Rely the Most on Federal Aid?

If the Fed were required to have a balanced budget, I suspect a lot of that money would disappear in short order.

98cwitr · Mar 3, 2021

TLK Valentine said:
That's a refreshing thought -- although it leaves me to wonder how many of those balanced budgets are relying on their federal aid in order to stay out of the red.

Which States Rely the Most on Federal Aid?

If the Fed were required to have a balanced budget, I suspect a lot of that money would disappear in short order.

I assume ALL of them, unfortunately. It's why our governor pushed the Census so hard.

If they'd audit the Fed we could solve a lot of this funny money mess!

TLK Valentine · Mar 3, 2021

98cwitr said:
I assume ALL of them, unfortunately. It's why our governor pushed the Census so hard.

And the last administration kept trying to hamstring it.

If they'd audit the Fed we could solve a lot of this funny money mess!

"They" who? The Fed can certainly audit itself -- but I suspect they wouldn't find any irregularities in their own books.

98cwitr · Mar 3, 2021

TLK Valentine said:
And the last administration kept trying to hamstring it.

I supported such "hamstringing." I'd like to see state welfare drop significantly if not to 0%.

"They" who? The Fed can certainly audit itself -- but I suspect they wouldn't find any irregularities in their own books.

Eh, debatably a government sanctioned, independent 3rd party firm. Pipe dream complete!

Pommer · Mar 3, 2021

98cwitr said:
I supported such "hamstringing." I'd like to see state welfare drop significantly if not to 0%.

O, what a wonderful utopia that’d be!

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