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New ArchBishop of York

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He seems like a really great guy for the Anglicans to have.

It sounds like hes an evangelical who roots himself in the Bible and has a passion for the gospel. But he also sounds like a compassionate social activist type of evangelical. For example hes protested against war and racism. He has also raised concerns about the language used in the debate about homosexuality.
I dont think that hes exactly liberal on this topic, but he has vowed to rid the church of homophobia.

Great choice. My only concern is over how an African born black archbishop can relate the faith to a white secular people.
 
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Shetlander said:
Is this a time for new hope & dreams?
Can 1 man make a difference or is he held by his denominational framework?

Read his inaugral sermon
http://www.cofe.anglican.org/news/pr9205.html

Pray for the guy?

He will get plenty of support from the Evangelical wing of the Church of England. I think he is just what we need :) - he has the right theology, attitude to worship, attitude to outreach and social justice.

But yes, pray!
 
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Bonhoffer said:
He seems like a really great guy for the Anglicans to have.

It sounds like hes an evangelical who roots himself in the Bible and has a passion for the gospel. But he also sounds like a compassionate social activist type of evangelical. For example hes protested against war and racism. He has also raised concerns about the language used in the debate about homosexuality.
I dont think that hes exactly liberal on this topic, but he has vowed to rid the church of homophobia.

Great choice. My only concern is over how an African born black archbishop can relate the faith to a white secular people.

what has skin color and nationality got to do with it?

as long as he's a decent bloke..
 
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The new Archibishop of York has just left Birmingham. He is born again, and is full of the Holy Spirit. He preaches the Gospel and ministers healing/deliverance and He was such an encouragement to all believers in our City. We were sad when he left Birmingham but know God will use him in this new opportunity.

Let's pray that God will annoint and use him in all he does.

Karen
 
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jellybean said:
what has skin color and nationality got to do with it?

as long as he's a decent bloke..
One of the jobs an Archbishop is to connect with the people of the area they are responsible for. This includes Anglicans, other Christians, other faiths and secular people. Most people in the north of England are not black. Most people in the UK do not come from a culturally African background. Therefore there could be some difficulties with him connecting with some parts of society. However the other hand his appointment is very representative of the huge African/black Christian community in the UK.
Please dont misunderstand me. I am for his appointment, I just have one small concern that he probably shares himself. In fact I have heard he is particually concerned about reaching white secular people.
We must remember that as much as we want to treat people the same, it is problematic to be completely colour-blind. Modern western missionaries are discovering that it is more effective for the gospel to appoint pastors of the local nationality,language,culture and race; rather than appoint English-speaking white westerners. This is because things such as language, race and culture can be barriers between people. The closer an evangelist/pastor is to their flock (or the people they are trying to reach) the fewer barriers there will be between them. Obviously the church want as few barriers for the gospel as possible. So it makes sense for the Pastor/evangelist to be 'from' the group they wish to reach because they can relate to them better.

However this doesnt mean that a black man can never relate to a white person or visa versa. After all throughout the history of missions many people succesfully reached and shared Christ with people that were very different from themselves. For all the wrongs that the Europeans did to the Africans, they did(from a Christian POV) do a good job in sharing the gospel and starting up the church there. And then theres St Paul. He was a man with a very strong Jewish identity, and yet he was called to be a witness to the gentiles. He travelled much outside of his own country and managed to relate to people of many different nationalities,cultures, races and languages.
He was well recieved by Greeks and Romans. He was brilliant in relating to these pagan people. In fact he was that successful that it wasnt long before Christianity came to be dominated by gentiles rather than by Jews.

We should also bear in mind the diversity there is even within non-Christian white people. A black bishop might appeal very strongly to a white New Ager whos strongly into multiculturalism. Such an appointment could convince them that Christianity isnt so narrowminded and institutional.
But the white Chav on a council estate in Darlington might have problems in relating to a black bishop. However the same white Chav would probably struggle to relate to an elderly middle-class bearded white bishop.

However from what I have read this new archbishop might have the character to reach across human divides. He has critcised type of multiculturalism that celebrates minority culture but frowns upon any celebration of traditional ethnic English culture. In other words he shares the concerns many white people have over p.c liberalism. That will go down really well with many people.

Being a person of colour he may also relate better to Asian people, as well as African.

I really hope he manages to do this. He seems really led-by God. I will really pray for him.
 
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But then you could equally say that a white Bishop might have trouble relating to a black community. Or that a woman minister, (and bishops when the anglicans get them) might have trouble relating to a man.

I'm pretty sure that it was John Sentamu who spoke at our parish weekend many years ago. Apparently he had his 5 or 6 talks for the weekend all worked out beforehand, but when he arrived he strongly felt that the Lord was asking him to say something else, so sat up half the night rewriting them. A great man.

If I wasn't doing so well in my training as a Methodist lay preacher, I'd almost be tempted back into the C of E.
 
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God did place this man in office

Karen

ps I am saddened that this is a christian forum and yet whenever we talk about God He is made fun of. I would love to see more positive threads on this forum about the Christian faith.

Karen
 
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Life in Abundance said:
God did place this man in office

Karen

ps I am saddened that this is a christian forum and yet whenever we talk about God He is made fun of. I would love to see more positive threads on this forum about the Christian faith.

Karen

i held back my comment just for you (when i read this) :hug:

why dont you start one? There have been many charitable acts done by christians and other nice things done, im sure you can think of something? :wave:
 
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Well the church IS in trouble then. Your daughter should get out now.


My daughter and I don't see eye to eye on religion, so we agree to differ and never talk about it, far the best way!


ps I am saddened that this is a christian forum and yet whenever we talk about God He is made fun of. I would love to see more positive threads on this forum about the Christian faith.


We all have a right to our perception of God, I don't think the fundies are right, they don't think my liberal outlook is right! If we all thought the same what a dull world we would live in! Personally I don't give a damn what people think as long as their beliefs don't hurt others!
 
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