Now notice it does not say Kings, or Sethites so why add to the text that which is not there?
Bible teacher Chuck Missler asked, “Were the daughters of Seth ugly”?
Good morning, Paul4. Hope you had a good evening last night.
I would first like to say that I know and have many close friends that see Genesis 6:2, "sons of God", as angels. The angel view is one of three legitimate views that I recognize. But of course, only one is true. I would also like to point out that this Genesis 6:1-4 issue is not a core dogmatice topic. That is, there are some doctrines that should be dogmatic. Those are one's that you cannot call yourself a christian if you don't hold them. This issue in Genesis 6:1-4 is not one of those dogmatic issues (not that we shouldn't seek truth in all doctrine). IMO
Regarding your arguments:
Now notice it does not say Kings, or Sethites so why add to the text that which is not there?
This is true. But this aurgement is not a good one, at least IMO. Because it doesn't say angels either. The text says,
bə-nê hā-’ĕ-lō-hîm, which translates as "sons of God".
Bible teacher Chuck Missler asked, “Were the daughters of Seth ugly”?
This also is not a very good aurgement, again IMO. I wish Mr. Missler would stop using it. He has better aurgements than this one to use. The fact, in my view, that godly men married outside the faith because they saw the ungodly women as beautiful, suductive, and tempting is not such an outlandish thing to wrap my mind around. In fact, the "thy seed" and "her seed" view
here (which is a view based on context) can reference many verses within Genesis where God forbid marriage outside of the faith after Genesis 6:1-2. Those are Genesis 24:3-4, 27:46, 28:1-3, Gen 26:34-35, Gen 34. And further referenced by Deuteronomy 17:7, Judges 3:6, Deuteronomy 7:3, Joshua 23:12, Ezra 10:2, 2 Corinthians 6:14.
IMO, all these references to not marrying outside the faith is
because of what happened in Genesis 6:1-4.
The text is not to just skim over. Something major caused the sons of God to take the daughters of men.
I agree.
Something major caused the sons of God to take the daughters of men.
I agree that somthing caused the sons of God to take the daughters of men. Your use of "major" seems to be something added to the biblical text to further your aurgement. If by "major" you mean that
something caused there to be less men calling upon the name of the Lord during Noah's time compared to Genesis 4:26. Then I agree. If you use the word "major" to somehow imply that this proves the angel view over any other. Then I disagree.
The real battle was of "the seed" of
Gen 3:15, and how to thrawt the prophesy
This...I totally agree with. This would be a good aurgument against the kings/rulers view. But mine asserts this same thing from the beginning. The context for Genesis 6 starts in Genesis 3:15 (IMO). However, that context also includes Genesis chapter 4 & 5. I will add that this "thy seed" and "her seed" prophesy is started to be played out immediately in Genesis chapter 4. There are many references within the biblical text for this but I won't put here. But the link above will help.
This is not just a physical matter, but spiritual.
I totaly agree with this also. Nice!
There was hesitation on Mount Herman to commit the wicked deed. Finally, they cursed themselves, in a pact, to do it. 1 Enoch6:3 And Shemihazah, their chief, said to them, “I fear that you will not want to do this deed, and I alone shall be guilty of a great sin.” 4 And they all answered him and said, “Let us all swear an oath, and let us all bind one another with a curse, that none of us turn back from this counsel until we fulfill it and do this deed.”
This is were you will lose me. I do not believe that we should never take information outside the Bible to confirm what the Bible has confirmed within iteself. However, scripture supports and confirms scripture. If you would like to convince me, then you will have to limit yourself to the Bible only. At least at the beginning.
On the particular topic of the book of Enoch. The Bible is spiritually inspired, put together by spiritually led people regrarding this process. This is my belief. God, through His providence, did not want the book of Enoch in our Bible. I take the fact that it is not in our Bible as evidence that he did not want it there (I understand it is in the Etheopian version of the Bible). Because of this view I have, I am very cautious with the book of Enoch. It is not divinely inspired, in my view, so it may hold nuggets of truth but may also hold many errors and untruths. Just my view. No need for me to belabor this any longer.
I Enoch, Jubilees, and Jasher, just to name a few books, are synoptic to Genesis 6 1-4
Again, not divinely inspired. At least my view. So not something to present at the start of an argument (IMO).
I would like to put more emphasis on a part of the text you presented. The text specificly states that the "sons of God", in Genesis 6:2, "took wives" (NKJV),
vayyiqḥû nāšîm. That is, they
married the daughers of man. It does not say they fornicated with the daughers of man, it says they married them.
The phrase “to take wife” is an expression throughout the entire OT for the marriage relationship, union between man and woman, established by God at creation. This term “to take wife” is never applied in reference to adulty, fornication, homosexuality, sexual relations with animals, or any simple act of physical connection within the Biblical text. So if we take the view that these "sons of God" (Gen 6:2) are angels then it would be the only text within the Bible that would be a reference to marriage as some form of perverse cohabitation and mixed species procreation. This is not a winning argument by any means. Just a red flag of caution because it would be an outlier within the biblical text to say that angels married human women. Again, scripture confirms scripture.
Peice be to you and may God do a fruitful-work through you.