Dave Ellis
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No. I did not say that. Actually it is not right.
You ARE choosing it right now.
You choose to reject God.
I do not need to read it. Why should I? Is there anything wrong with what I said about humanism?
If you do not think God exist, you ARE rejecting God.
God,
No God,
Is that clear?
When we talk about God, the concept of God is already presented, like it or not. Otherwise, we do not talk about it.
So, God is the assumption, God is assumed to be there. Do you accept that assumption or not?
If you do, then we can talk about some other thing about God.
If you don't, then you reject that assumption. In other word, you reject God.
God loves you. So, He has already approached you many times. You can read about Him in the Bible. You can hear about Him in the church. You blamed Him about the slavery, God have me to explain the true meaning of slavery to you according to what God says.
You rejected Him, you rejected the Bible. Do not say He did not try.
Can you give a good reason to accept that assumption? If not, then why should we assume it to be true?
Which church? they all preach different things. There something like 30,000 christian denominations now, from extremely fundamentalist to extremely liberal. I'd even go as far to say as there's as many different brands of Christianity as there are Christians. How can you objectively tell who (if anyone) is correct?
As for the bible, if you did a little bit of research into how it was written and compiled, you'd reject it too. If your god actually does exist, that can not be his book.
Nonsense, one would have to believe something exists before you can reject it.
For example, I can not reject Darth Vader, the concept is absolutely meaningless.
Yes, unless I misunderstood you, you said, that if you were a humanist, you could easily defend a moral action which is called murder.
Just like if a woman chooses to reject you, it is OK for you to kill them since they made the choice to die?
Yes you did, just scroll back a page or two.
Because if someone believing in my existence was required to prevent them from being tortured for the rest of eternity, I would have a moral obligation to try to make myself known to that person.
If God exists as defined, then he's all powerful. He would easily have the ability to let me know he's there. So, if he really does exist, then for some reason he's chosen not to reveal himself to me.
This is problematic for multiple reasons. I'll share some.
First, it seems to me that every theist seems to have his own personal working concept of "god". A lot of times, these concepts are in conflict with eachother. This sends mixed signals to the non-believers. If you theists can't even agree on a singular concept / definition, how the hell do you expect us to agree with any single personal concept you present us with?
Sorry I do not respond to long post. So I only pick the first one or two.
The variation in the understanding of God among Christians IS the most beautiful nature of Christianity. Every human is unique, and they are all called Christians. You, as an observer, do not take anyone's idea to be yours. The only common factor is that you accept God as every else do, then you can develop your own understanding about Him. After all, you are you, nobody can understand God as you would do.
I argue with my best church fellows all the time. We enjoy it.
to assert that all people are Christians is silly. Even more silly is thinking that an atheist thinks any god exists. By the definition of atheism that is incorrect.
Strictly speaking, we have to define what does "exist" mean first. The problem rises because we omitted that step.
Besides, God does not show Himself to you now with a very very good reason. God wants your faith, not just your visual.
You accept the assumption that God exists because you want to know what God says and what God means by what He says.
Without accepting the assumption first, I have no logic ground to continue.
Then all the talks and reasons have no ground and are in vain and meaningless. You are here to talk to me about my God. If you do not accept the assumption that my God exists (only an assumption), then why would you want the conversation?
I skipped the other two questions. If you like, you can bring them up again.
As long as you mentioned that term, it already logically exists.
You don't think it exists, it means you reject whatever that is.
Yes. What is wrong with that?
I don't do that. You scroll.
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