Need some input/prayer.please....

[kaykay9.0]

What do you do when you are in the middle of your own OCD spike/obsession and you just know in your heart its OCD, but the OCD keeps insisting that well, it COULD be true.

I have been battling this one for about 2 months now. As I posted before, my issues don't concern unforgivable sin etc. It's a religious form of OCD but another area other than forgiveness. I just dont feel comfortable saying what it is publicly, because I really do feel it could cause a spike possibly in someone else.

It's just somethng that the OCD is demanding I take action about and I just know I shouldn't cuz it's the OCD. I know since I won't be specific, this doesn't make much sense. Just take my word for it.

Please pray for me. I know you guys know what it's like to battle this kind of stuff.

Thanks,
kk

 

[Jayangel81]

I think its frightning. Its a hard thing to take control of because we get so irational.

we can tell one person and try to convince their thoughts/obsessions are just OCD but we cant even do it for ourselves

I built this shield around myself that causes me to not believe anything. No feelings, no thoughts no nothing. and yet it still can be difficult.

Its not something I have grasped because when it happens to me, My total way of thinking just crumbles.

Best thing I can say is close your eyes and take a few deep breathes and keep telling yourself that its not true.. Pray to God for strength.

Have you and your doctor spoke about this? you need to come up with some sort of exercise to calm you down and bring you back to a rational state.

Im praying for you

 

[kaykay9.0]

Thanks, Jay. I wouldn't say I'm in a panic mode about it. Just troubled, very troubled and tired of being troubled about it. I did discuss with my counselor and it didn't really help this time. She agreed it was OCD, but my OCD argues that it might not be! (You know what I mean! LOL!) Since this particular obsession began, I've had good days with it and bad.

And yeah, again that's the irony of it. In the areas where I don't obsess, I can clearly see how someone else is obsessing about something and being irrational and that's it's just their OCD misbehaving! But my own seems logical....

Thanks for the prayers, too.

 

[picassoui]

Thanks, Jay. I wouldn't say I'm in a panic mode about it. Just troubled, very troubled and tired of being troubled about it. I did discuss with my counselor and it didn't really help this time. She agreed it was OCD, but my OCD argues that it might not be! (You know what I mean! LOL!) Since this particular obsession began, I've had good days with it and bad.

And yeah, again that's the irony of it. In the areas where I don't obsess, I can clearly see how someone else is obsessing about something and being irrational and that's it's just their OCD misbehaving! But my own seems logical....

Thanks for the prayers, too.

i understand how you feel kay ..ill be praying for you

andrew

 

[ObsessedButBlessed]

Oh kay, I know that trouble all too well. So easy to convince others it's OCD, but not own struggles are OCD. The thing that keeps running through my mind is the risk we take, ignoring that it's a "real" problem and instead treating it as OCD. For some reason that has just been on my mind this week. But that's what we need to do in order to put OCD to rest. A good rule of thumb is to do the exact opposite of what OCD demands us to do.

OCD will always seem like it has a kernal of truth to it... otherwise it wouldn't bother us! I will pray that you have strength to keep battling this particular obsession.

 

[gracealone]

Hi KayKay,
Sorry to hear you're having this period of distress. I go through those nagging uncomfortabe periods of doubt too. I try to get to the root of the fearful consequences of what the doubt is suggesting or aiming at. Then I try to accept that the fearful consequences might or could possibly be true because I can't in any way prove that they aren't. THis means that I have to accept or live with the feelings of doubt and uncertainty that the OCD is creating without attending to them in any way. This is especially hard when the doubt ends up suggesting that "this time it might be a real or valid concern and not your OCD." But at it's root the fearful consequences - the thing that I am fearing just might be true is usually a familiar theme.
The litmus test for me when I begin to attend to the doubt/question in any way is to ask myself, "is doing this making me feel better or worse?" If my anxiety is peaking more and more by attending to the doubt/question then I make the decision to go ahead , take the risk and label it OCD.
Then in order to stop all that mental compulsive activity I usually have to whack myself over the head with an imaginary plastic ball bat and say - "cut that out - right now or you'll only feel worse!"
Did you ever watch Hee Haw? (I'm dating myself here.) There was this Dr. on the show and the local yokels would come to him with various maladies. They would say -"Dr. when I do this thing/or that thing it really hurts!" Then the Dr. would respond to them by taking off his hat, giving them a whap on the head and saying, "Then don't do that!!"
I know this probably sounds rather silly and simplistic. But the key to making the hurt go away with OCD is to stop doing the thing that intensifies the hurt.
Don't know if any of this is at all helpful to you KayKay - but thought I'd offer it just in case. Believe me sometimes it can take days or weeks -even months before I'm willing to say "Plastic ball bat time" and give myself a good whap on the head.
Praying for you,
Mitzi

What do you do when you are in the middle of your own OCD spike/obsession and you just know in your heart its OCD, but the OCD keeps insisting that well, it COULD be true.

I have been battling this one for about 2 months now. As I posted before, my issues don't concern unforgivable sin etc. It's a religious form of OCD but another area other than forgiveness. I just dont feel comfortable saying what it is publicly, because I really do feel it could cause a spike possibly in someone else.

It's just somethng that the OCD is demanding I take action about and I just know I shouldn't cuz it's the OCD. I know since I won't be specific, this doesn't make much sense. Just take my word for it.

Please pray for me. I know you guys know what it's like to battle this kind of stuff.

Thanks,
kk

 

[kaykay9.0]

Thanks for the advice, Sad & Mitzi. I just guess I'm not at the place I can lay down the plastic baseball bat yet! LOL! I'm still at that agonizing place of thinking that if I do that, maybe, just maybe this time, I'm overlooking something that I really need to take action about. Not all, but many of my more severe obsessions revolve around that maybe I need to DO a certain thing to resolve the situation. (In most cases, yeah, it might "resolve" the dilemna but would also be EXTREMELY destructive, especially just to placate what is most likely OCD.) It's almost like taking the action is kind of a "compulsion" in some sense. Kind of like if your OCD revolved around germs, "hand washing" would be. I don't know if I'm making any sense here!! But the OCD argues, "NO, this is a REAL threat!" and on and on....

(It would be clearer to you if I could just tell you what the obsession is, but I really,really don't think that would be wisdom here. I just don't feel a release to do that.)

 

[RachelZ]

Hi KayKay...really sorry you're struggling...sending a hug and a prayer for you! What you're saying makes perfect sense to me...I too feel compelled to do certain things even when they cause me much embarrasment...like confessing some minor thing or possible thing I may or may not have done or apologising in case I offended someone that nine times out of ten I haven't! All I can say from some miniscule rational piece of my brain is maybe let it lie...the chances are this is the OCD rearing it's ugly head, but if you're really finding it hard to get peace about dealing with it as such could you give it to God and say you're willing to deal with it ONLY IF HE WANTS you too? You and He both know that anxiety is not a good starting point for making decisions so maybe if you left it with Him you could see what happens to the anxiety? I don't know if that's bad OCD treatment advice but I'm guessing you have the wisdom to know if it is or not judging by your responses to me. I really hope and pray you get some peace on this soon...I read somewhere if you think it could be OCD it IS OCD. I struggle with that one but do know that when I feel better the issues that do come up have a different feel about them. OCD smells bad...LOL

Thanks so much for your replies in my thread...I've just read through from where I last posted but don't have time to respond now but wanted to read your thread and post. Take care...hugs, Rachel

PS Sorry if any of that sounds bossy or is detrimental to good ERP

 

[kaykay9.0]

Hi KayKay...really sorry you're struggling...sending a hug and a prayer for you! What you're saying makes perfect sense to me...I too feel compelled to do certain things even when they cause me much embarrasment...like confessing some minor thing or possible thing I may or may not have done or apologising in case I offended someone that nine times out of ten I haven't! All I can say from some miniscule rational piece of my brain is maybe let it lie...the chances are this is the OCD rearing it's ugly head, but if you're really finding it hard to get peace about dealing with it as such could you give it to God and say you're willing to deal with it ONLY IF HE WANTS you too? You and He both know that anxiety is not a good starting point for making decisions so maybe if you left it with Him you could see what happens to the anxiety? I don't know if that's bad OCD treatment advice but I'm guessing you have the wisdom to know if it is or not judging by your responses to me. I really hope and pray you get some peace on this soon...I read somewhere if you think it could be OCD it IS OCD. I struggle with that one but do know that when I feel better the issues that do come up have a different feel about them. OCD smells bad...LOL

Thanks so much for your replies in my thread...I've just read through from where I last posted but don't have time to respond now but wanted to read your thread and post. Take care...hugs, Rachel

PS Sorry if any of that sounds bossy or is detrimental to good ERP

Thanks for your prayer, concern and input, Rachel.

LOL! I have also dealt with the "need to confess" type of OCD too! I had almost forgotten about those types of issues, but yeah, I think they are usually OCD-ish too. Usually, the ones I really get "hung up" on, however, involve the need to do some kind of really BIG action, something you really DON'T want to do unless it is God directing, not OCD.

Good advice about submitting situations to God and I have done that with situations including the present struggle. However, I have also found that when I'm in a spike about something, either I don't hear God or my thinking is so muddled about it, I'm not sure what I'm hearing or from what source!! Does that make any sense??? Of course, one obvious answer (and this could be beneficial for someone who doesn't struggle with OCD) would be to seek some Godly counsel. Problem is~ I do, and they tell me it's OCD and then I don't trust the counsel. (Well, they're probably right, but...OCD always has a "but" ....they might be wrong...) So you check with 5 other Christians, then 10, then 10,000.... and they all say it's OCD, BUT they could ALL be wrong and the OCD thoughts could be right! I'm exaggerating, of course, but exaggerating to make a point...Perfect example of "reassurance" not being enough to stop the thoughts. I KNOW you all know what I mean!

Right now I'm trying to "take the risk," treat it as OCD and turn away from it. But the thoughts are screaming at me!!!!

 

[JamesAH]

I prayed for you I understand what you're going through big time it's hard this is such a debilitating illness it just drains you I know it drains me.

 

[RachelZ]

Oh KayKay I know all too well where you're coming from! The what if this is God wanting me to do this? That one's a killer but I'm kinda hoping that as God knows all about OCD He also knows that you would be willing to do something really, really hard for Him but don't want to do it if it's not from Him. We are called to obey Him but I'm not sure of anywhere in the bible where it says that every anxious, sreaming voice must be obeyed just in case it's God. I'm in danger of being labelled a hypocrite I know cos I really struggle to take on board this advice for me but I do feel that if God wants you to do something He won't muddle it up with an anxiety disorder. He knows your heart and that you desire to do His will even if that's something really difficult but He also knows that you have had similar experiences in the past which have turned out to be OCD and that you are seeking to be wise in dealing with this current obsession. God says to test everything so I'd say if you can test if treating this as OCD works then it's not a bad place to start. If when all the anxiety fades you feel a peaceful conviction then that may be God but if when the anxiety dies down you can't understand what you were so worried about then it was most likely OCD.

Well...I'm off to contradict myself in my thread now...so you have permission to bash me for being a hypocrite...LOL! Really hope and pray you get some peace today or if not then at least the strength to stand up to the lack of peace with a firm conviction that God knows you and loves you...take care, hugs, Rachel

 

[kaykay9.0]

Oh KayKay I know all too well where you're coming from! The what if this is God wanting me to do this? That one's a killer but I'm kinda hoping that as God knows all about OCD He also knows that you would be willing to do something really, really hard for Him but don't want to do it if it's not from Him. We are called to obey Him but I'm not sure of anywhere in the bible where it says that every anxious, sreaming voice must be obeyed just in case it's God. I'm in danger of being labelled a hypocrite I know cos I really struggle to take on board this advice for me but I do feel that if God wants you to do something He won't muddle it up with an anxiety disorder. He knows your heart and that you desire to do His will even if that's something really difficult but He also knows that you have had similar experiences in the past which have turned out to be OCD and that you are seeking to be wise in dealing with this current obsession. God says to test everything so I'd say if you can test if treating this as OCD works then it's not a bad place to start. If when all the anxiety fades you feel a peaceful conviction then that may be God but if when the anxiety dies down you can't understand what you were so worried about then it was most likely OCD.

Well...I'm off to contradict myself in my thread now...so you have permission to bash me for being a hypocrite...LOL! Really hope and pray you get some peace today or if not then at least the strength to stand up to the lack of peace with a firm conviction that God knows you and loves you...take care, hugs, Rachel

This is a GOOD post, girl. In fact, I have heard very similar words come right out of the mouth of my counselor before. She also says that she believes that if it's really God (not OCD) and it's really that important that He can find a way to make that clear to me since I really am willing to do something if I'm certain it's Him. It helps having you reinforce that. It really does. Thank you.

LOL! No, you're not a hypocrite! I know exactly what you mean!!! When I was posting giving advice to you yesterday, I'm thinking the same kind of thing~
"Fine one to tell HER these things when I've got a thread going on my OWN OCD struggles..." That 's the ironic thing about OCD~ we can often see things relating to someone ELSE with a clear, rational head but our own stuff...not so much!!!

 

[QUannie]

KK, WOW do i know exactly what you are talking about!!!
I prayed for you! I too do not feel comfortable telling some of the things I struggle/obsess about, but i too want to go resolve or fix and the outcome could be disastrous, i keep telling myself the scriptures on He remembers my sins no more and they are as far as the east is from the west....
it is hard i know, keep pushing forward, He has already dealt with all our stuff!!!

Q