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Why is drinking alcohol bad? I have never drank before because I think it alters ones mind and is not what God wants us spending our time doing. No one is completely themselves when they drink as far as I can observe from their actions. What can I tell others if I want to confront them about this habit. When I ask them why they drink they tell me I dont get drunk I just like the little buzz it gives me and then they say it helps with their confidence. Any bible verses to help me understand why it is bad or maybe not all that bad to drink. Thanks
 

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Why is drinking alcohol bad? I have never drank before because I think it alters ones mind and is not what God wants us spending our time doing. No one is completely themselves when they drink as far as I can observe from their actions. What can I tell others if I want to confront them about this habit. When I ask them why they drink they tell me I dont get drunk I just like the little buzz it gives me and then they say it helps with their confidence. Any bible verses to help me understand why it is bad or maybe not all that bad to drink. Thanks

Hello krick...

In Christ, we are "free" to drink alcohol.
However...
God's word clearly teaches us that we should ..

Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak. 1 Corinthians 8:9

And, we know that there are many...
who are weak,
when it comes to alcohol.

So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. Do not cause anyone to stumble.. 1 Corinthians 10:31

If I drink alcohol...anywhere,
I could be causing another to stumble.
Which is why I chose not to drink.

Hope this helps.
Be Blessed.
 
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Why is drinking alcohol bad? I have never drank before because I think it alters ones mind and is not what God wants us spending our time doing. No one is completely themselves when they drink as far as I can observe from their actions. What can I tell others if I want to confront them about this habit. When I ask them why they drink they tell me I dont get drunk I just like the little buzz it gives me and then they say it helps with their confidence. Any bible verses to help me understand why it is bad or maybe not all that bad to drink. Thanks

MY SISTER,

Being a recovering alcoholic, this is a hard question for me to answer objectively. Alcohol destroyed my life and the lives of my family for more years than i care to remember. However, God is good and has kept me sober for the past 22 years! ALL GLORY TO HIM!

Anyway, i realize that my problem with alcohol was MY problem with alcohol, and had little to do with the substance itself--it was my abuse of the substance which caused my addition to it.

That being said, alcohol is a very toxic drug--it is a powerful depressant of the central nervous system. If you drink to the point where you get a "buzz", it means that your brain is being slowly sedated--the more you drink, the more your brain is put to sleep and the less functional it becomes. The main problem with alcohol is that the part of the brain which is numbed out first is that part which controls your judgment and inhibitions. Therefore, it doesn't take much to cause your behavior to begin to subtly change and you to start making choices--perhaps bad ones--which you would not make if you weren't consuming alcohol, and the more you drink, the worse your choices become. The problem with this is that the more you drink, the less you are aware of how alcohol is negatively affecting you and your choices, and the Evil One, of course, makes good use of this property of alcohol when it happens!

Again, there is probably little wrong with alcohol in and of itself; it is the reason for which we drink which causes the problem--there is a big difference between having a glass of wine with dinner and drinking at a party to catch a buzz. As our Lord stated, it is not what goes into the body which causes sinfulness, but what comes out from the heart.

i would suggest that perhaps you Google "alcohol and its effects" and read up on the subject so you can have good answers for those friends of yours who are consuming alcohol. It is not the "harmless recreation substance" the T.V. commercials make it out to be!

A BOND-SLAVE OF CHRIST,
ephraim
 
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17So then do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 18And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit,
19speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord
; (EPH 5 NAS)

(PROV. 20 NAS)
1Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler,
And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise.
2The terror of a king is like the growling of a lion;
He who provokes him to anger forfeits his own life.
3Keeping away from strife is an honor for a man,
But any fool will quarrel.


There are many, many verses advising against it.


BUT....... (1 TIM. 5:23 NAS)


No longer drink water exclusively, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments.
 
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The Bible does not forbid the consumption of alcohol. It does forbid drunkeness. It's hard to argue that no one should drink alcohol when Jesus turned water into wine.

Frankly, there are much better uses for your time than going around confronting people about their drinking. If you don't want to drink, by all means, do not drink! But as far as trying to make everyone ele conform, you don't have a Biblical leg to stand on.
 
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The Bible does not forbid the consumption of alcohol. It does forbid drunkeness. It's hard to argue that no one should drink alcohol when Jesus turned water into wine.

Frankly, there are much better uses for your time than going around confronting people about their drinking. If you don't want to drink, by all means, do not drink! But as far as trying to make everyone ele conform, you don't have a Biblical leg to stand on.

On the last few Wednesdays, a brother in our church has been teaching on the subject, "Should a Chrsitian drink alcohol?" He has some pretty compelling biblical reasons for not drinking, along with his personal testamony of being delivered from alcohol.

One of the things He talked about was that there were two types of wine in biblical times: alcoholic and non-alcoholic (basically grape juice) and that Jesus turned the water into the non-alcoholic kind.

He claimed that the fermentation process is a man-made invention, that it wasn't a naturally occurring process, so that any wine that was drunken to make one drunk in the bible was purposefully made that way.

He also indicated several reasons why Jesus didn't produce alcoholic wine, nor drank it, nor instituted it in the Last Supper. If we believe that Jesus is the Word of God, then everything in the Old Testament was written by Him. So in passages like Leviticus 10:9 (Aaron and his sons were priests and high priest told not to drink, therefore our High Preist did not drink), Numbers 6:3, Judges 13, Proverbs 20:1, Proverbs 31:4 (kings are not to drink, so therefore the Kings of Kings did not drink), Isaiah 5:11, 22, and so forth, are admonishments not to drink from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Word of God.

And as far as the Timothy passage, the brother sad that this was non-alcoholic as well. Medically, according to him, alcohol has detrimental effects on linings of the stomach, so it would be unlikely that Paul instruct Timothy to drink alcoholic wine. So it must have been the non-alcohlic type. Certainly it has been my experience, when I did drink in the past, that my stomach would turn into knots and I'd get nauseous if I drank to much.

Anyway, it doesn't take a genius nor a theologian to know that alcohol has been the destroyer of many families and relationships. I haven't heard of much benefit in drinking it, other than to get stupid on Saturday nights.
 
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On the last few Wednesdays, a brother in our church has been teaching on the subject, "Should a Chrsitian drink alcohol?" He has some pretty compelling biblical reasons for not drinking, along with his personal testamony of being delivered from alcohol.

One of the things He talked about was that there were two types of wine in biblical times: alcoholic and non-alcoholic (basically grape juice) and that Jesus turned the water into the non-alcoholic kind.

Your brother is, how shall we say ... mistaken.

He claimed that the fermentation process is a man-made invention, that it wasn't a naturally occurring process, so that any wine that was drunken to make one drunk in the bible was purposefully made that way.

Please. Go to the store. Buy some grapes. Crush them and put them into a container and wait. They will ferment. The natural sugars and the yeast in the air will cause fermantation.

The process that stopped fermentation in grape juice was invented by Dr. Welch, a dentist, so that his little church in Vineland NJ did not have to use wine for communion in 1869. Up until the good dentist went to work, one could only drink unfermented grape juice for a day or two after the pressing. In Biblical times there was no such thing as unfermented grape juice. (nor was there an unfermented raisin paste that was popular, despite the fact that I once had to listen to a silly sermon contending that Jesus gave the wedding party JARS of unfermented raisin paste and the guests raved about it!

He also indicated several reasons why Jesus didn't produce alcoholic wine, nor drank it, nor instituted it in the Last Supper. If we believe that Jesus is the Word of God, then everything in the Old Testament was written by Him. So in passages like Leviticus 10:9 (Aaron and his sons were priests and high priest told not to drink, therefore our High Preist did not drink), Numbers 6:3, Judges 13, Proverbs 20:1, Proverbs 31:4 (kings are not to drink, so therefore the Kings of Kings did not drink), Isaiah 5:11, 22, and so forth, are admonishments not to drink from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Word of God.

Last I checked I was neither a priest or a king.

And as far as the Timothy passage, the brother sad that this was non-alcoholic as well. Medically, according to him, alcohol has detrimental effects on linings of the stomach, so it would be unlikely that Paul instruct Timothy to drink alcoholic wine. So it must have been the non-alcohlic type. Certainly it has been my experience, when I did drink in the past, that my stomach would turn into knots and I'd get nauseous if I drank to much.

Well, Paul must have written it wrong then!:doh: How silly of him.

As you can wll imagine, food sanitation and preservation was quite the challenge back in the good old days. A traveler would often have to use dubious supply sources. If one drank wine with the food, the alcohol would help kill off any bacteria and help prevent digestive and intestinal problems.

Anyway, it doesn't take a genius nor a theologian to know that alcohol has been the destroyer of many families and relationships. I haven't heard of much benefit in drinking it, other than to get stupid on Saturday nights.

No one is urging you to drink. By all means, don't if you think it is wrong. But there simply is no universal command in the Bible telling us not to do so.
 
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On the last few Wednesdays, a brother in our church has been teaching on the subject, "Should a Chrsitian drink alcohol?" He has some pretty compelling biblical reasons for not drinking, along with his personal testamony of being delivered from alcohol.

One of the things He talked about was that there were two types of wine in biblical times: alcoholic and non-alcoholic (basically grape juice) and that Jesus turned the water into the non-alcoholic kind.

He claimed that the fermentation process is a man-made invention, that it wasn't a naturally occurring process, so that any wine that was drunken to make one drunk in the bible was purposefully made that way.

He also indicated several reasons why Jesus didn't produce alcoholic wine, nor drank it, nor instituted it in the Last Supper. If we believe that Jesus is the Word of God, then everything in the Old Testament was written by Him. So in passages like Leviticus 10:9 (Aaron and his sons were priests and high priest told not to drink, therefore our High Preist did not drink), Numbers 6:3, Judges 13, Proverbs 20:1, Proverbs 31:4 (kings are not to drink, so therefore the Kings of Kings did not drink), Isaiah 5:11, 22, and so forth, are admonishments not to drink from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Word of God.

And as far as the Timothy passage, the brother sad that this was non-alcoholic as well. Medically, according to him, alcohol has detrimental effects on linings of the stomach, so it would be unlikely that Paul instruct Timothy to drink alcoholic wine. So it must have been the non-alcohlic type. Certainly it has been my experience, when I did drink in the past, that my stomach would turn into knots and I'd get nauseous if I drank to much.

Anyway, it doesn't take a genius nor a theologian to know that alcohol has been the destroyer of many families and relationships. I haven't heard of much benefit in drinking it, other than to get stupid on Saturday nights.

This is one of the most uninformed arguments against drinking alcohol I have ever read. Wine is, by definition, alcoholic -- and it was certainly so in Biblical times hudreds of years before grape juice was even a possibility (as the above poster pointed out in more detail).

Alcohol itself has not destroyed any families or relationships -- the abuse of alcohol has. When I drink, I drink things that I enjoy the flavor of. I have never been drunk, nor do I drink places where it would be unsafe to drink (anywhere I'd have to drive away from, anywhere where I don't know the people I'm with very well, or anywhere where my drink may be tampered with). I drink probably five or six times a year. Alcoholism runs in my family, so I am careful to not turn to it if I have a bad day, for example, as I do not want to start a patten of dependence.

Because I drink responsibly, I'm doing nothing wrong. My actions neither harm myself nor those around me. Simple enough.
 
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There is quite a difference between drinking and being drunk. While the Bible does caution us against getting drunk, there is nothing that prohibits drinking without getting drunk. If I want to have a beer with dinner, or a glass of wine at a restaurant with friends, as long as I'm not causing anyone else to stumble then there is no reason for me to abstain.
 
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