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My preacher has created a new program that we will be doing for the next 5 months. on the 4th Sunday of every month we will have "SOUL purpose Sunday" it will work like this

9:30-10:30 Sunday School
we have been advised to not invite to this because it is early and we have a lot planned for the day.

10:45-11:45 welcome, worship, message
This message will be geared towards the lost and while it may not be the full gospel it will open the door for communication with the people we invite

12:00-12:40 Food
food served by a team of the month and is a time to fellowship with the lost that have come to visit

12:45-1:15 ADHESION(small groups)
we will form into our small groups that have been picked by the Pastor and will try to connect with the Lost that have been invited. this is a time of praise, testimonies, and prayer.

No Evening Service
This gives the church time to rest and enjoy God's creation or nap and relax.

I have notes on what I see wrong with this but I would like some input from others on this. I went to the pastor after he told us this plan and politely told him I disagree with this plan and feel that it leads people away from learning to share the Gospel. He told me he doesn't like this plan but people in the church wont evangelize so he came up with this so that after 5 months of inviting people he can look at the church and say "see how easy that was not you can evangelize." to add to this I have been called out in church service twice because I disagree so it is clearly an issue. besides the issue of not learning biblical evangelism this is going to take 5 months then if he plans a series for evangelism this whole process could take a full year before people are ready. that is a year where people die every day and go to Hell while we sit in a pew and don't share the Word. please post anything you feel will be helpful in dealing with this issue.
 

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Rev55,

These are my observations:

  1. Sounds like another seeker-sensitive approach that could come from Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, etc.
  2. In my part of the world, having it on a Sunday would be the worst possible day as it is competing with secular sports, etc.
  3. Sounds like a softly sell of the Gospel - Gospel lite. Doesn't seem to get close to the content of Acts 4:12.
  4. Is your church embarrassed to be too up-front with the solid Gospel message?
  5. It sounds awfully like a market-driven approach that sucks people in by one means but the real message is very different from what they get with the first dose.
Just some thoughts from a fellow traveller.

Oz


My preacher has created a new program that we will be doing for the next 5 months. on the 4th Sunday of every month we will have "SOUL purpose Sunday" it will work like this

9:30-10:30 Sunday School
we have been advised to not invite to this because it is early and we have a lot planned for the day.

10:45-11:45 welcome, worship, message
This message will be geared towards the lost and while it may not be the full gospel it will open the door for communication with the people we invite

12:00-12:40 Food
food served by a team of the month and is a time to fellowship with the lost that have come to visit

12:45-1:15 ADHESION(small groups)
we will form into our small groups that have been picked by the Pastor and will try to connect with the Lost that have been invited. this is a time of praise, testimonies, and prayer.

No Evening Service
This gives the church time to rest and enjoy God's creation or nap and relax.

I have notes on what I see wrong with this but I would like some input from others on this. I went to the pastor after he told us this plan and politely told him I disagree with this plan and feel that it leads people away from learning to share the Gospel. He told me he doesn't like this plan but people in the church wont evangelize so he came up with this so that after 5 months of inviting people he can look at the church and say "see how easy that was not you can evangelize." to add to this I have been called out in church service twice because I disagree so it is clearly an issue. besides the issue of not learning biblical evangelism this is going to take 5 months then if he plans a series for evangelism this whole process could take a full year before people are ready. that is a year where people die every day and go to Hell while we sit in a pew and don't share the Word. please post anything you feel will be helpful in dealing with this issue.
 
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My preacher has created a new program that we will be doing for the next 5 months. on the 4th Sunday of every month we will have "SOUL purpose Sunday" it will work like this

9:30-10:30 Sunday School
we have been advised to not invite to this because it is early and we have a lot planned for the day.

10:45-11:45 welcome, worship, message
This message will be geared towards the lost and while it may not be the full gospel it will open the door for communication with the people we invite

12:00-12:40 Food
food served by a team of the month and is a time to fellowship with the lost that have come to visit

12:45-1:15 ADHESION(small groups)
we will form into our small groups that have been picked by the Pastor and will try to connect with the Lost that have been invited. this is a time of praise, testimonies, and prayer.

No Evening Service
This gives the church time to rest and enjoy God's creation or nap and relax.

I have notes on what I see wrong with this but I would like some input from others on this. I went to the pastor after he told us this plan and politely told him I disagree with this plan and feel that it leads people away from learning to share the Gospel. He told me he doesn't like this plan but people in the church wont evangelize so he came up with this so that after 5 months of inviting people he can look at the church and say "see how easy that was not you can evangelize." to add to this I have been called out in church service twice because I disagree so it is clearly an issue. besides the issue of not learning biblical evangelism this is going to take 5 months then if he plans a series for evangelism this whole process could take a full year before people are ready. that is a year where people die every day and go to Hell while we sit in a pew and don't share the Word. please post anything you feel will be helpful in dealing with this issue.

I have a few issues, but I'll start with this. I don't understand this part:

This message will be geared towards the lost and while it may not be the full gospel it will open the door for communication with the people we invite


He should be preaching the gospel every week. Why would not on this week?
 
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I'd agree with the others that the point about it "not being the full gospel" is really strange. We don't have anything else to say to the lost. The gospel is it!

We don't have anything else to say to the saved, either. :)
 
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OZ that is the same feeling I got about this. to everyone else, he hasnt quite come out and said what the service is going to be but my biggest issue is that it has been made clear that it wont be a sermon that equips the saints but it will be a sermon people can use to share the gospel with the people that have come that day.
 
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Rev55,

These are my observations:

  1. Sounds like another seeker-sensitive approach that could come from Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, etc.
  2. In my part of the world, having it on a Sunday would be the worst possible day as it is competing with secular sports, etc.
  3. Sounds like a softly sell of the Gospel - Gospel lite. Doesn't seem to get close to the content of Acts 4:12.
  4. Is your church embarrassed to be too up-front with the solid Gospel message?
  5. It sounds awfully like a market-driven approach that sucks people in by one means but the real message is very different from what they get with the first dose.
Just some thoughts from a fellow traveller.

Oz

sorry for the double post but I wanted to hit this separately

1. your right and that's what has made me worry so much about this because it screams seeker-sensitive.

2. This is my issue with not having evening service, from what I have researched evening services were a way for the church to offer a christian activity to help church members get away from secular entertainment like sports.

3. I have heard this called easy believism, selling an easy to swallow gospel by taking a few parts out again points to a seeker-sensitive approach.

4. this is my view too, no one has been trained to go out and evangelize so yes they are too afraid to share because they don't know how.

5. I agree here as well.

When I told my pastor I disagree with the approach he told me he hated having to to do it this way yet he tells everyone else how excited he is to be doing this. He has also called me out on the fact that I disagree in church services twice now so im not sure how to handle it.
 
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