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First, some background:

I was raised in church where my dad was a deacon and Sunday school teacher. He came from a rough background, his father was an alcoholic and died when my dad was 18. My father was a good provider, but he has a horrible anger issue. There was a lot of verbal and emotional abuse in our household growing up. I do not have contact with my father at this point in my life- that is a whole other story, I'll just say he left my mom and they are divorced now.

Now for the problem:

Early last year a boyfriend from my college years contacted me via Facebook. I'd ended the relationship back then because I didn't want to be as serious as he wanted. I apologized to him about the way I left things back then. We started talking a lot, and began dating again. He'd been married, but had been divorced for many years, and had a son. He and his ex get along very well, which is good, no drama. I've never been married, though I have been engaged- the end of that relationship was mutual, we just grew apart, and I lived a pretty wild life until my early 30's.
Anyway, so I'm still dating the boyfriend from college. It has been a good relationship until recently. As much as I've tried to avoid dating guys who have anger issues, like my dad, it seems I have ended up with one. It's so confusing- one day he can't tell me he loves me enough, and treats me well. The next day, he's angry, or he picks on me. One thing he picks on me about is my weight. I'd never had a weight problem until the last year or so. I had major back issues, it got to the point where I couldn't walk more than 5 steps without being in excruciating pain. I watched what I ate, as always, but could not exercise. I finally had back surgery, and as soon as the doc cleared me, I was working out to get the weight off, and it's coming off, slowly but surely. I have told him it really hurts me when he picks on me, but he hasn't stopped. I find myself not wanting to hang out with him, which makes him angry. I make excuses, finally I told him again that I don't want to be around someone who treats me like that.

At one point, he did admit he had issues he needed help with, including the anger. He had gotten very upset with his son and grabbed him by the neck so hard, it left open gashes from his fingernails. I thought this would be a good turning point- he was going to go to counseling, and we both were going to go together as well. The counseling never happened, not on his part.

I'm not stupid. I know I should just end the relationship. I'm not afraid of being alone. I guess in some weird way I feel God put us together to break the cycle of abuse that we'd both been through. I thought loving him unconditionally, and not giving up on him like everyone else, would help. He has a good heart, he can be so loving and caring, but lately it seems he is just unhappy and angry. I know he's having financial problems due to the economy, the job he has been at for over ten years has not been getting good business. I know he's having problems with his son, who has been lying about things, like his grades, and I know his son is lying because he is afraid of his dad's anger. That's another reason I stay, his son and I have developed a close relationship and I know he is attached to me, and would be upset if I wasn't around.

I know what I need to do. I guess I just really need prayers for strength and wisdom. Any advice would be great, though. Thanks.
 

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There are some danger signs. Changes need to be firmly in place and well established before any commitment is made. He will need outside help to get to the root of his anger issues and maybe you too would benefit by looking at how your own dad's anger has affected you.

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There are some danger signs. Changes need to be firmly in place and well established before any commitment is made. He will need outside help to get to the root of his anger issues and maybe you too would benefit by looking at how your own dad's anger has affected you.

John
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Thanks John. I agree. He is going to get counseling, he recognizes that he has a problem- the issue with him getting physical with his son really shook him up. I've told him that his words can hurt just as much as the physical.

He is a lot like my father- was raised by a very abusive, alcoholic father. Like my father, he thinks that being a provider and not being physically abusive makes him a better father than his own. The difference is that my dad is still in denial about how his anger affected my mom, my brother and me. I think it's a good sign that my boyfriend realizes he does have a problem and is willing to get help for it. I know he has planned to propose sometime this year, but I've told him I can't accept until I know he has dealt with the issues. I'm not going to live with that anger again... there is just no way. He knows I love him, but I won't put up with what's been going on anymore.

I've been through extensive counseling about my father, actually for over 10 years off and on. My main problem with the whole thing is that I tend to internalize the stress and hurt and anger I feel, and sometimes I've gotten to the point where I just check out emotionally. I still have work to do, but I don't internalize as much, I pray, I write, I talk it out, and physically working out helps a lot. I don't feel so much anger about my dad anymore, just hurt and concern about him and his mental health.

Thanks again. Sorry if I tend to ramble, but it's helping to write it out and get some feedback. And prayers are always welcome. :)
 
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That's encouraging. But make sure you give him enough time to show changes have really taken hold.

You have obviously done well. Don't let that get undone by someone not worthy of you.

Bless you
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Thanks so much. I definitely will give it time. God Bless.
 
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You are too good to put up with his bad attitude. Keep your distance. I wish you the best. I will pray for you. Have the two of you tried to go to couple therapy? I mean considering you want the relationship to progress. I have heard therapist say "anger is a secondary emotion". Have you found out why he is angry? Say to him, "tell me what is making you so angry". Baby girl, don't start the yccle over again. you deserve to be free. You are too young to be disrespected. Also, you might want to let him know you will no longer tolerate his bouts of anger. Offer to help, but know when to step out the relationship. He is a grown man. True, everyone gets angry, but that is no excuse for him to take everyone on an emotional roller coaster. You are beautiful and strong. You are what you think you are. I want you to think and know you are the best! Know that you don't have to co-exist in his pressence if he is constantly blowing his top.I have experienced first hand the effects alcholism (long term emotional) can have on a person. That is good you are getting consueling , but make sure you don't repeat the cycle. Once in a lifetime is enough. It's not fair for you to experience verbal abuse twice in your life. Keep smiling,because I am sure everyone here is still praying for you. Best wishes.
 
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You are too good to put up with his bad attitude. Keep your distance. I wish you the best. I will pray for you. Have the two of you tried to go to couple therapy? I mean considering you want the relationship to progress. I have heard therapist say "anger is a secondary emotion". Have you found out why he is angry? Say to him, "tell me what is making you so angry". Baby girl, don't start the yccle over again. you deserve to be free. You are too young to be disrespected. Also, you might want to let him know you will no longer tolerate his bouts of anger. Offer to help, but know when to step out the relationship. He is a grown man. True, everyone gets angry, but that is no excuse for him to take everyone on an emotional roller coaster. You are beautiful and strong. You are what you think you are. I want you to think and know you are the best! Know that you don't have to co-exist in his pressence if he is constantly blowing his top.I have experienced first hand the effects alcholism (long term emotional) can have on a person. That is good you are getting consueling , but make sure you don't repeat the cycle. Once in a lifetime is enough. It's not fair for you to experience verbal abuse twice in your life. Keep smiling,because I am sure everyone here is still praying for you. Best wishes.

Thank you so much for the kind words of encouragement and your prayers. I'm definitely standing my ground, I know he has it in him to deal with this. He's going to do some solo counseling, then we will go together. I'm optimistic that it will work out, but I'm not stupid, so just taking it day by day, showing my love for him, but not bending on the anger issue.

Again, thank you, I feel very encouraged no matter what happens, I know God has a plan. :)
 
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