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I am here because I need advice and guidance from a Christian´s perspective. I don´t go to church and it is much easier if I write this out then speak to someone. My issues are complicated and a have many things I want to share and discuss with you. Prepare, sorry this is VERY long...

This is my story, (mostly based around my depression).
I am 18 years old (turning 19 very soon), live in Australia and I am not a Christian. However, I do very much believe there is God, the devil, good, evil, heaven and hell, but I am not Christian. My other family members are currently Catholics. We were originally as a family, Buddhists. During the time while my father was sick we turned to Jesus for help... we wanted him to get better and we had hope. This was 5 years ago. Unfortunately he passed away, but during the time he was sick he saw good things that cannot be explained. I believed he saw these things and that´s why I believe there is a God and that my father is now in God´s Kingdom. All my family members (five others), converted to Catholics... except for myself. I had not converted but was very open to the religion. I sometimes attended church with my family and we would have deep discussions about Christian topics. My family assumed that I had completely converted that they told me to act certain ways, to do and not to do certain things. It felt like ¨rules¨ that I had to follow but did not entirely agree with. The pressure made me turn the other way and soon later I felt a hatred towards God and the religion. A year later after my father passed away, I was coping and felt that I had moved on but something in me changed. I was no longer afraid of death or dieing. I did ¨not care if I died¨, and I even remember telling my friend this. Two years later I had my first anxiety attack. I had an argument with my sister about a computer. I got so mad that I wanted to hurt myself. I tried hurting my hands with metal wiring. This only caused redness, and small cuts. Sounds strange but to me it felt ¨good¨ and l liked what how it looked. This happened again days later from a similar argument. I remember going into the bathroom and looking at myself in the mirror, I stared into my eyes. I could see red veins and they were pinky from crying. There was so much hatred in me I could see it in my eyes, I thought evil was making me feel this way. Sometimes I felt mad and have to leave the house. I would walk around the shopping mall for the whole day until it closed. It was only temporary relief from my anger. When I got home, I was mad again and was throwing things around, privately. This lasted about two weeks and I felt myself again. I had no idea how serious it was at the time. One year later I had another anxiety attack, this time because another sister told me she will buy me a puppy but she didn´t buy me the specific puppy that I wanted (sounds like nothing now but I was really upset at the time). I cried all day. I went into my room and started cutting little bits of my flesh from my arm with scissors. It left scars which I still have today. My episode stopped. At school, my grades started dropping. My final year of high school began, I was very excited to finish and move on to focusing on my career. Each month got harder. I felt depressed all the time. I wasn´t passing two out of five subjects. I was finally aware that I was depressed and needed help. I went to see a doctor but she didn´t take me seriously. She told my mum not to worry and that my condition wasn´t serious. Mid-year I broke down. I stopped going to school, and went by myself to shopping malls instead so my family thought I was still going to school. One night, I didn´t want to come home so I stayed at a park in my neighborhood. I starred at the moon and felt at peace. I loved the being in the dark. I imagine myself just being alone forever at night with no stress, pain, suffering. I still want that now. It´s my dream world. For two weeks I did this.. eventually my family found out and I was yelled at. I stayed in my room crying. I felt like I couldn´t think or move, like I was literally going mad or insane. I wanted to die. My mum said some really mean things to me which I still remember and cannot forgive her for. I hated myself and the world. I hated God and my mum for giving me life. I started cutting myself again, each time was easier then before. I got urges to do it. There was an anger inside of me and each cut releases a little bit of this anger until I was calm I stopped. I didn´t really have the strength to take my own life. The next year I went back to school, but an adult school trying my chances again to graduate. I was not confident all and feared of a repeat of last year. Turns out it was. During the year I was very depressed and had many suicidal thoughts. Around the same time as last year, I dropped out of school. Had been the closest ever to actually killing myself. I cleaned my room, took a knife from the kitchen and sharpened it. I even tested it on my arm if it needed more sharpening. I never cut deep enough but thank goodness I reconsidered my plans. I didn´t want my friends or family to suffer and I had no reason to die, other then because I was ¨tired of living¨.

Here I am months later telling you this. Was it too long? I hope I didn´t blabber on too much. I am telling you this because I think that the darkness is winning me over. I´m attracted to it. I enjoy listening to heavy dark music. As years pass, the music seem weaker, I start craving heavier music. Sometimes I am unsure whether my thoughts are my own or influenced by the dark side. I am not a bad person, I don´t want to be. I never smoke or drink and I am a very nice caring person in real life, but deep down I have so much hatred towards God, people, society, and even my family. At times I feel I don´t need anyone or God, just myself. Back to my point... a couple of nights ago I considered suicide again after an argument with my mother. I googled ¨how to commit suicide¨ (all the suicide ways I can think of are painful and messy). I clicked on one of the links and it lead me to a site which told me to not kill myself and that I will go to hell if I do and the only way I can be saved is through the Lord Jesus Christ. I had this fear rush over me. (Even though I used to tell myself and my family that I did not care if I went to hell, I used to think of hell as a joke place where I was forced to do lots of exam papers for eternity) At that moment, that fear made me want to reach out to God and made me believe I need him in my life. The trouble is that I still don´t understand him, I still have hatred and darkness in me. I don´t know how to change my negative thoughts into positive ones. Please help me, I dont know what I should do?



There are more things that I have left out and feel I should mention but that was way too long I don´t even want to re-read what I just wrote....
 

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Hi Mel. First thing I want to do is say that I'm sorry for your situation. I can imagine it's rough and my thoughts and prayers are with you.

I was a bit similar to you in high school, maybe different in my actions but pretty close to the same in reasoning and emotions. I never cut myself, but I did intentionally do things to hurt myself, like punch walls, punch/bite myself, box/wrestle other people who were bigger than me and could hurt me, things like that. I loved it when I would get black eyes or woke up sore or whatever else I could get done. I think what that came down to was that emotionally I was dying and becoming so numb, and physical pain is the only thing I really responded to. It kind of woke me up for short spurts and made me aware of myself.

I also got attracted to the darkness and watched as that got worse and worse. Things that I said I would never do in high school, I was doing daily by the time I started college. I mean some of my most important values in my entire life, I threw out the window for no real reason, just because what I was doing at the time wasn't satisfying me enough.

It's a really tough spot to be in. And I want to let you in on something that a lot of people tend not to realize, including myself when I became a Christian. Jesus isn't a one stop fixer up. Belief in Jesus doesn't mean that all your problems are going to go away, or that all your emotions will become positive. I've been a believer for over a year and I still have moments where I think back longingly to the days of drug abuse and sexual intimacy I used to get into. I realize those things are filthy and disgusting to God, but belief in God doesn't make emotions like that just go away because that becomes a part of us.

The first key to understanding God is to understand that. He's not going to make you perfect right off the bat (or in this lifetime). He's going to change you completely, but you are still going to have scars (both physical and emotional) from your past and those don't go away.

Want to know how to turn your negative thoughts into positive ones? By turning your negative actions into positive ones. Have you ever heard the phrase, "fake it till you make it?" That's the principal. If you want to be more loving, start showing people love by complimenting them, building them up, encouraging them, praising them, doing all you can to just pour out love on them. At first you might feel it's lame and you might tell yourself that this is stupid and that's not who you are... But after awhile, it starts to become who you are and it shapes your personality.

When you get the urge to hurt yourself, try a different action. Try going for a jog, or calling a friend and talking, or doing something fun! At first, your thoughts might still be on hurting yourself, but after awhile, when you start to feel depressed, you'll start thinking that you want to take a jog instead. See what I mean? It's not easy, it's a long and tough road, but with constant work you can really change things around.

I'm going to get a little theological here... But as humans, we were made for God, which means that we are meant to live in Him, and Him in us. We are made to worship Him and love Him with all our hearts. Have you heard of the fall of man, where man sins? This is the result of that is that our hearts were turned inward. We love ourselves the way we were supposed to love God, we worship anything we can get our hands on (ipods, celebrities, etc), and we feel empty inside because we are filling our selves with the wrong things (drugs, alcohol, physical intimacy, etc). If we could just love and worship God with all our hearts, and in turn were filled with the Holy Spirit, we would be all fine and dandy. Those feelings of emptiness come from rejecting God and trying to put other things in the place that He is supposed to be at. Does that make sense? I hope I'm explaining this well...

Anyways, if you are feeling like darkness is taking over your life and becoming more and more attractive, and things like needing heavier, darker music to get satisfaction, if you don't turn to God, that darkness will just get worse in your life. It's because you are trying to fill yourself up with things that cannot fill you, and so it will take more and more extreme things to satisfy you until there's nothing left and you can't find joy at all. That may be why you're feeling numb and why physical pain feels good to you.

If you fill yourself with God, accept Jesus into your life, and truly believe, things will change. You'll start to get into God's word which will give you instruction for how you should live your life and what you can do to get back on track. It will teach you about the greatest love on earth, that Christ loves us so much that He died a horrible death for us, even when we were His enemies! That will in turn encourage you and teach you how to love better. You will learn how to love God, love yourself, and love others. You will feel more satisfied then you have with anything else in your life because you will be filling yourself with what you were meant to have, and that is God. If you put your trust and faith in Jesus, these things will happen.

But, it won't take away the other things in your life. You will still like that dark music. You'll still think about hurting yourself. Those things take time to get rid of. You need to understand first who God is, and who you are, and why those things are bad, before you can really get away from them completely. But if you keep pushing God away, you won't get to that point ever. God is hope and through Him you can be delivered from all these things.

If you want to talk to me about more of the issues you are having, feel free to pm me. I don't want to run this message too long. I hope this is helpful though and my prayers are with you. God bless!
 
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Thanks so much for being honest and sharing such painful stuff Mel, your post brought back memories or my life as a teenager and how many of the feelings you've described I also suffered except I was a christian who had grown up in church.
Christians wern't supposed to feel like that. We had God, who loved us, so why? The problem is there's a difference between a relationship with God (which is led by him and two-way) and the rules of christianity, which are good, but impossible to fulfill on our own.
Many denominations in christianity have rules to be a christian on which they judge whether you are one or not, but the only one who has the last word on what a christian really is is God. And you find out what that is through the bible, and asking.

I battled with suicidal thoughts from 12 onwards and went through a phase around 15/16 where I finally couldn't feel anything at all. I climbed out of that a few years later but my problems wern't solved. I suffered horribly emotionally but couldn't really be real about my pain in church because it wasn't accepted. Who is going to listen to something like that? (It can be hard enough getting your friends to, let alone christians with fairly functional lives who really don't know what you're talking about and can expect you to be different because you're supposed to be happy.)

Anyway, years later I started attending a 'spirit-filled' church, generally refered to as charismatic or pentecostal and where people not only give their lives to christ, but they got a two-way relationship with God by being baptised in the holy spirit (which is how it happens.) I'd never heard about it or knew about it but after I did it myself a whole new world opened up. One where God was actually leading me instead of me praying to him and trying my hardest to be 'good' but never being good enough. It was the most wonderful revelation of my life and is all through the new testament but some churchs just refuse to aknowledge that it exists unfortunatly. (That's why you have to find out what the bible says christianity is and not an individual church group.)

In fact if I hadn't of done that, I wonder if I even would have been able to hang on this long, I honestly doubt it.

Anyway, it is there if this is something you would like for yourself. You don't need to worry about cutting or any bad thing you might have done disqualifying you from God accepting you in this kind of relationship, so you can do a websearch and find a spirit-filled church near you if you want. A good way to find what is usually a good church too is to do an Alpha course (you can also find that on the net) if there's a church close to you running one. Those churchs tend to be spirit-filled but the course is a way for you to check out christianity and the church without having a lot of pressure put on you. You don't have to join afterwards, but it's a good way to get a feel for the church environment and the course is non-denominational which means many different churchs from different backgrounds run it.

All the best with your search. Kevlite gave great advice above too. Your problems won't instantly disappear but you'll be on the right path to get rid of them over time. One of the first things I was set free from being in a spirit-filled church was an eating disorder. I had anorexic thinking so badly that I would look at aneroxic victims on tv who were months away from death and think that they could lose a pound or too. I finally realised I had a serious problem when one day I was in a museum and found myself looking at a skeleton critically. True story.

I was prayed for and BAM, the thinking completly went and I never struggled with it again. That was one area where God miraculously set me free, and there have been others, but in other areas I just had to slog it out, with Gods help till I got there. Christianity isn't a free ticket to perfect happiness in this life, but it does put you in touch with the God of the universe personally, (if you do it the biblical way) and enable him to help, heal and walk with you.

It's the most amazing (if extremely hard at times) life that a human being can ever have. I wouldn't swop it for anything you could offer me in the world. And I've gone through far more then most christians have I think. The real God is too amazing.

PS And I might have made spirit-filled churchs sound a bit like a cult through the way I've presented it, but they arn't (sorry if I have). There's even catholic churchs who run the Alpha course.
 
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Hi Mel! My name is Bill with recovery staff. I had your thread moved here as I want you to get the love and care you deserve. Their are others here who have been caught up in hurting themselves also. The reasons are always varied but alot the same.

You will find people from all over the world here who are Christians and will love you unconditionally right where you are now. I pledge to you that the recovery staff will be among those. New posts are moderated here so no one can see a new post until a moderator approves it so no fear of someone abusing you here. We check this forum daily to approve posts and check on members.

Let me just say that Jesus loves you more than anything else on earth. If you had been the only human alive He would have died for you, so that you could live eternally in heaven with him in person.

I will check on you tomorrow and hope you have found this new thread. email me since pms wont work until you have 25 posts. My profile under contact will show you options. I check msn several times a day.

Welcome to CF and welcome to more loving family than you ever had before!
 
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Welcome Mel :hug:
I can relate to so many of the feelings you describe! And being a Christian isn't an instant fix... a lot of Christians struggle with depression and even self harm. But the one thing we do have is hope...and that makes all the difference.
You are loved, sweetie, totally and unconditionally.
If you need someone to talk to, please email or PM me. And if you get the urge to cut, there is a sticky here which may give you some ideas of how to get through and distract yourself.
God bless you, sweetie :hug:
 
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Wow, Mel that was a very powerful post. You are reaching out and you are asking God's people and God the right questions.

First off, religion as the world uses the term is not very attractive or fulfilling. Rules and traditions on how to live don't entrance me, rather they stir up rebellion in me.

Okay, now our condition without Christ paying for our sins on the cross is quite desperate. When the first humans chose to disobey God, our spirit died. We were created to be three part beings as God is a three part being. Well He is actually more than that but I don't understand it and probably never will here on earth. Back to my topic. We were created in the image of God with a Body, Soul and Spirit. With a dead spirit with which to commune with God, we simply cannot reach Him. We need an intecessor, a savior, a way to have our spirit alive.

We get that in Christ Jesus. He came to earth and knows all of our temptations and sufferings. He paid for our brokenness and sins with his own life and blood. He is alive again and He imparts that life to us. He intercedes for us with God the Father and says I paid for that. His blood covers us and we are clean in God's sight because of it. We have the Holy Spirit in us now that enlivens our broken dead spirit and we can now commune with God. But to get that, you have to act. You have to say to Jesus, however you do it, that you accept His sacrifice and you want Him to come and make you new. You see, God isn't going to force you to do this, He waits for you to choose Him.

And yes there is a Hell, and we are all naturally going to go there because we are born separated from God. And we are born with the sin taint. And a Holy God can't be around Sin. He must seperate us from Himself. And truth be told, His Holiness would destroy us if we are still tainted and are around Him. If you die without Christ in you, then you will be separated from God. So, please do accept Him.

Jesus did not say we would have a life of ease, He said we would have troubles in this life. But He also said He would be with us, and He said He would be closer than a brother. Since I don't have a brother, but rather an older male sibling, I'm quite glad Jesus is very close as I go through life. And yes, my life is a struggle at times, but God give me strength, and courage, and encourages me.

You need that too, and I hope and pray you do accept Christ and His sacrifice and you are born anew.
 
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