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<blockquote data-quote="non-religious" data-source="post: 58679159" data-attributes="member: 103142"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">You tell me... </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Yeah, I guess my bringing this into the discussion has caused it to digress. I used Islam as an example, regardless of how one feels about the teachings, because Muslims are overwhelmingly peaceful and law abiding citizens. Yet it is these same people who are experiencing the backlash from all groups. So they are literally facing a form of persecution. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Herein lies the problem. When you say "our" who specifically? Because I would be absolutely convinced that the majority of practicing Christians in the UK do not feel as though their rights are being eroded. Equally, when you say rights what specific rights? The right to worship, the right to preach, the right to send your child to a faith school? Your right to celebrate Christian events/days? Your rights to get married and have one partner? Your rights to spend your money where you want, on what you want? And your right to protest? </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">All of which you already, freely enjoy. There are probably many more I could mention. So when you make the argument, I believe you're making this false assumption that if it affects the few, it affects the majority. Clearly not true. When say the devil can blind the minds of believers through the use of secularism, what specifically do you mean? How? give me examples...</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">So just like ianb321red's employer, your lecturer is someone who is anti-biblical or perhaps a non-believer. So why be at all surprised by what he/she states? And how does that in any way represent either a form of persecution or the rise of secularism?</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">This line of thinking has existed within classrooms for generations. We are a largely secularist society. Christians are a remnant, the gate is narrow. You probably know and appreciate those verses more than me. Many will grow cold etc.. the Bible is littered with references re how small the believers are in numbers and how they will get even smaller. So if your neighbor, your dentist and your local green grocer are all non-believers, does that mean you should no longer have your teeth fixed, have small talk over the garden fence or get your five a day? Of course not, just like you will continue with your studies and learn from this heretic <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> and go on with your life. Those things should not equate somehow to an eroding of our faith or rights.</span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I have already asked way to many questions and perhaps they're questions that cannot be answered. I have asked anyway in the hope that one day lol.....</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I was considering a career in social work prior to starting my nurse training many yrs ago and have a couple of friends who are in the field. We certainly need them. All the best with your studies <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="non-religious, post: 58679159, member: 103142"] [FONT=Arial]You tell me... [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]Yeah, I guess my bringing this into the discussion has caused it to digress. I used Islam as an example, regardless of how one feels about the teachings, because Muslims are overwhelmingly peaceful and law abiding citizens. Yet it is these same people who are experiencing the backlash from all groups. So they are literally facing a form of persecution. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]Herein lies the problem. When you say "our" who specifically? Because I would be absolutely convinced that the majority of practicing Christians in the UK do not feel as though their rights are being eroded. Equally, when you say rights what specific rights? The right to worship, the right to preach, the right to send your child to a faith school? Your right to celebrate Christian events/days? Your rights to get married and have one partner? Your rights to spend your money where you want, on what you want? And your right to protest? All of which you already, freely enjoy. There are probably many more I could mention. So when you make the argument, I believe you're making this false assumption that if it affects the few, it affects the majority. Clearly not true. When say the devil can blind the minds of believers through the use of secularism, what specifically do you mean? How? give me examples... [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]So just like ianb321red's employer, your lecturer is someone who is anti-biblical or perhaps a non-believer. So why be at all surprised by what he/she states? And how does that in any way represent either a form of persecution or the rise of secularism?[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]This line of thinking has existed within classrooms for generations. We are a largely secularist society. Christians are a remnant, the gate is narrow. You probably know and appreciate those verses more than me. Many will grow cold etc.. the Bible is littered with references re how small the believers are in numbers and how they will get even smaller. So if your neighbor, your dentist and your local green grocer are all non-believers, does that mean you should no longer have your teeth fixed, have small talk over the garden fence or get your five a day? Of course not, just like you will continue with your studies and learn from this heretic ;) and go on with your life. Those things should not equate somehow to an eroding of our faith or rights.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]I have already asked way to many questions and perhaps they're questions that cannot be answered. I have asked anyway in the hope that one day lol.....[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]I was considering a career in social work prior to starting my nurse training many yrs ago and have a couple of friends who are in the field. We certainly need them. All the best with your studies :)[/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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