Name above every Name - in Heaven and on earth...

[Carl Emerson]

Hi folks.

Here goes - lower you heresy shields...

I have been pondering this issue for a while and invite comment.

In John 17 we have clear statements concerning the Father giving Jesus His Name ("I have kept them in Your Name, the Name You gave me.")

Further to this the 'Name above every name' is JESUS. Not just on earth but on heaven as well.

Jesus simply means God Saves.

So this will ruffle a few feathers but I can only conclude that God Himself has raised the Name of Jesus higher than any other name He has.

Our messianic brothers in particularly want the claim YHWH is eternally the highest name.

So what is the Name above every Name - this is important as we need to be confident that we are appealing to the highest authority.

 

[Neogaia777]

Hi folks.

Here goes - lower you heresy shields...

I have been pondering this issue for a while and invite comment.

In John 17 we have clear statements concerning the Father giving Jesus His Name ("I have kept them in Your Name, the Name You gave me.")

Further to this the 'Name above every name' is JESUS. Not just on earth but on heaven as well.

Jesus simply means God Saves.

So this will ruffle a few feathers but I can only conclude that God Himself has raised the Name of Jesus higher than any other name He has.

Our messianic brothers in particularly want the claim YHWH is eternally the highest name.

So what is the Name above every Name - this is important as we need to be confident that we are appealing to the highest authority.

Isaiah 66:2- "And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name."

Revelation 2:17- "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it."

Revelation 3:12- "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name."

This name is YHWH, etc.

And we shall all have it eventually, but it shall not just be it all alone and all by itself except for only with He or They who is or who are God only, and are not just some angel or servant of His who are a part of that body of His, etc.

It is also the name of the Heavenly City, or of the new Jerusalem in Heaven, or of the Kingdom of God, and/or of the New Heaven, etc, which is why no one fully knows the name yet, etc, because if he did, he would have to be God, etc.

The individual names we will come to know, or that will be given to us, will be YHWH with something else added to it, or else before or after it, etc, of which each individual unique name no one else (except God) will fully know with the exception of the one who it is given to, or whom receives it, etc.

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Isaiah 66:2- "And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name."

Revelation 2:17- "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it."

Revelation 3:12- "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name."

This name is YHWH, etc.

And we shall all have it eventually, but it shall not just be it all alone and all by itself except for only with He or They who is or who are God only, and are not just some angel or servant of His who are a part of that body of His, etc.

It is also the name of the Heavenly City, or of the new Jerusalem in Heaven, or of the Kingdom of God, and/or of the New Heaven, etc, which is why no one fully knows the name yet, etc, because if he did, he would have to be God, etc.

The individual names we will come to know, or that will be given to us, will be YHWH with something else added to it, or else before or after it, etc, of which each individual unique name no one else (except God) will fully know with the exception of the one who it is given to, or whom receives it, etc.

God Bless!

This name, has never ever fit very neatly into any kind of box or receptacle that mankind has come up with and/or has designed, etc, and probably never will, etc, because it is a lot of things, or is everything, basically, etc...

Good luck trying to pin it down or figure it out in it's entirety, etc...

Jesus has already been given this name, and knows it fully, etc...

God Bless!

 

[disciple Clint]

Hi folks.

Here goes - lower you heresy shields...

I have been pondering this issue for a while and invite comment.

In John 17 we have clear statements concerning the Father giving Jesus His Name ("I have kept them in Your Name, the Name You gave me.")

Further to this the 'Name above every name' is JESUS. Not just on earth but on heaven as well.

Jesus simply means God Saves.

So this will ruffle a few feathers but I can only conclude that God Himself has raised the Name of Jesus higher than any other name He has.

Our messianic brothers in particularly want the claim YHWH is eternally the highest name.

So what is the Name above every Name - this is important as we need to be confident that we are appealing to the highest authority.

I guess I do not understand your question. God has many names but there is only one God so regardless of which name you use you are always praying to the one and only God.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Is the Name of Jesus above every other name or not ???

Eph 1
20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:

22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church...

Phil 2
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

 

[Neogaia777]

Is the Name of Jesus above every other name or not ???

I thought I answered this already...

I will try again, but shorter this time, ok...

Every name but the name that is YHWH, because that is actually His new name, because it both is/has always been God's actual name, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Carl Emerson]

I thought I answered this already...

I will try again, but shorter this time, ok...

Every name but the name that is YHWH, because that is actually His new name, because it both is/has always been God's actual name, etc...

God Bless!

This suggestion contradicts the scripture I quoted...

The Name of Jesus is above all Names including those which are to come...

 

[Neogaia777]

This suggestion contradicts the scripture I quoted...

How so...?

The Name of Jesus is above all Names including those which are to come...

Is Joshua a name that is above all other names?

Jesus goes by a new name now, and that name is YHWH.

Be Blessed.

God Bless!

 

[Carl Emerson]

How so...?



Is Joshua a name that is above all other names?

Jesus goes by a new name now, and that name is YHWH.

Be Blessed.

God Bless!

Sorry but that is not what scripture says...

Lets see what other folks think...

 

[Neogaia777]

@Carl Emerson

The actual name used, is much less important than what is in your heart when you are saying it, etc, since the actual name of God is not fully known in full or in it's entirety by anyone except God or He who is just like God anyway, etc...

Language and syllables and writing is mainly for our benefit anyway, etc...

Much more important is what you mean in your heart when you are saying it anyway, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Carl Emerson]

@Carl Emerson

The actual name used, is much less important than what is in your heart when you are saying it, etc, since the actual name of God is not fully known in full or in it's entirety by anyone except God or He who is just like God anyway, etc...

Language and syllables and writing is mainly for our benefit anyway, etc...

Much more important is what you mean in your heart when you are saying it anyway, etc...

God Bless!

I understand where you are coming from but God has provided scripture and inspired it Himself so we need to take it seriously.

 

[Neogaia777]

I understand where you are coming from but God has provided scripture and inspired it Himself so we need to take it seriously.

And you think I do not...?

In my opinion, you keep talking about what scripture says (supposedly), but also in my opinion, are seeming to actually understand very little of it, etc...

You do know that "Jesus", is only Jesus name in English only, right...?

Or do you lack that most basic understanding, etc...?

It could very easily be "Joshua" as well, in English anyway, etc...

It's unclear what it actually was or is or should be in English due to the way it must be translated from the original Hebrew or Greek, etc...

More important is what you are meaning or are saying in your heart when you are saying it, etc, because this goes well beyond just mere language or semantics that are mainly just for our benefit, and our benefit only, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

I understand where you are coming from but God has provided scripture and inspired it Himself so we need to take it seriously.

You act like He inspired it in the original English, etc...

Is that really what you think...?

You need more knowledge, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Petros2015]

Once upon a time, there was a person
About whom I used to say
"you are the only person who knows how to say my name right"
And the reason she was the only person who knew how to say my name right
Was that she was the only person who really knew me
And loved me

I think it's like that.

 

[Saint Steven]

I noticed something about the title that is significant from my perspective.

Name above every Name - in Heaven and on earth...

There is a third location where Jesus' name is above every name. (bold below)
"... under the earth," (in the realm of the dead)

Philipians 2:9-11 NIV
Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

 

[tall73]

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

I would consider this text alongside it:

1Co 15:24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27 For “God has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him.
1Co 15:28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.

 

[Saint Steven]

This suggestion contradicts the scripture I quoted...

The Name of Jesus is above all Names including those which are to come...

Perhaps we need to define what it means to have "a name above every name"?
Above every name in what sense? What is the significance?
Who are the other names that Jesus' name is above?

Thanks for this interesting topic. Timely for me, I guess.

I had been bothered lately with my prayers that end with "... in your name, amen."
Well, what name am I praying in? I address Father God at the beginning of the prayer.
Which is a name we don't know.

 

[BobRyan]

Hi folks.

Here goes - lower you heresy shields...

I have been pondering this issue for a while and invite comment.

In John 17 we have clear statements concerning the Father giving Jesus His Name ("I have kept them in Your Name, the Name You gave me.")

Further to this the 'Name above every name' is JESUS. Not just on earth but on heaven as well.

Jesus simply means God Saves.

So this will ruffle a few feathers but I can only conclude that God Himself has raised the Name of Jesus higher than any other name He has.

Our messianic brothers in particularly want the claim YHWH is eternally the highest name.

So what is the Name above every Name - this is important as we need to be confident that we are appealing to the highest authority.

YHWH is the name for God in scripture and it does not matter if it is the Son or the Father or the Holy Spirit - that name applies. One God in three persons yet going by that one Name.

John 14 Jesus said "The Father is greater than I" - but does not say that He Himself is not also YHWH. In fact we see several places where the tetragrammaton is applied to both of them.

 

[Clare73]

Hi folks.
Here goes - lower you heresy shields...
I have been pondering this issue for a while and invite comment.
In John 17 we have clear statements concerning the Father giving Jesus His Name ("I have kept them in Your Name, the Name You gave me.")
Further to this the 'Name above every name' is JESUS. Not just on earth but on heaven as well.
Jesus simply means God Saves.
So this will ruffle a few feathers but I can only conclude that God Himself has raised the Name of Jesus higher than any other name He has.

Our messianic brothers in particularly want the claim YHWH is eternally the highest name.
So what is the Name above every Name - this is important as we need to be confident that we are appealing to the highest authority.

I see "name" here as referring to his title or position (rather than his proper name, Jesus), where:
all the glory of heaven and all the power of heaven and earth are entirely devoted to Jesus (John 3:35),
his title/position is above all titles/positions (Philippians 2:9) that can be given by the Father in honor, rule, authority, power and dominion, in both time and eternity (Ephesians 1:21),
all things are given into his hands (John 3:35) by the Father,
all things are placed under his feet (Ephesians 1:22) by the Father,
he is made head over all things (Ephesians 1:22) by the Father,

i.e., his title/position is the highest conferred by God in all creation, both heaven and earth.

Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all divine, but the Father is head, generating both the Son and the Holy Spirit (both come from out of the Father--John 8:42, John 15:26) and conferring authority/power to them.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Is there not a direct association between 'Name' and 'Authority' ???

Did Jesus not keep His flock safe with the authority of His Fathers Name which was given to Him...

John 17
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.