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Of course you're not dreaming. Why would anyone think they're dreaming? It's not a dream. That's preposterous. Never listen to some who tries to convince you that you're in a dream because you're not in a dream. No way, no how. Not dreaming. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a job to do.

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Yeah, what kind of sick demented intelligent designer would intentionally do that to people?

Luckily, the answer is no one since it wasn't something intentionally designed by an intelligence.

But what about symmetry? You may impose that physical symmetry is a human mind product too, but that doesn't explain its appliance in reality, here we come to reality out of human mind, same logic applies to mathematics, and its real life appliance, how can human mind products achieve that amount of accuracy when it comes to reality? Are they truly invented by the human mind or maybe... discovered?
 
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That's quite a list of things we still must learn!

  • Perception: How does the brain transfer sensory information into coherent, private percepts? What are the rules by which perception is organized? What are the features/objects that constitute our perceptual experience of internal and external events? How are the senses integrated? What is the relationship between subjective experience and the physical world?
  • Learning and memory: Where do our memories get stored and how are they retrieved again? How can learning be improved? What is the difference between explicit and implicit memories? What molecule is responsible for synaptic tagging?
  • Sleep: What is the biological function of sleep? Why do we dream? What are the underlying brain mechanisms? What is its relation to anesthesia?
  • Cognition and decisions: How and where does the brain evaluate reward value and effort (cost) to modulate behavior? How does previous experience alter perception and behavior? What are the genetic and environmental contributions to brain function?
  • Movement: How can we move so controllably, even though the motor nerve impulses seem haphazard and unpredictable?[3]
  • Computational neuroscience: How important is the precise timing of action potentials for information processing in the neocortex? Is there a canonical computation performed by cortical columns? How is information in the brain processed by the collective dynamics of large neuronal circuits? What level of simplification is suitable for a description of information processing in the brain? What is the neural code?
  • Neural computation: What are all the different types of neuron and what do they do in the human brain?[4]
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No wonder creating a genuine AI which would be identical to how we reason is so extremely difficult if not impossible!
 
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Yeah, what kind of sick demented intelligent designer would intentionally do that to people?

Luckily, the answer is no one since it wasn't something intentionally designed by an intelligence.

Or God intended for us to exist in order to fulfill His will of overcoming all evil. Hmm...we'll see! Love God, love people! :)
 
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Or God intended for us to exist in order to fulfill His will of overcoming all evil. Hmm...we'll see! Love God, love people! :)
I don't fully understand what you mean. Care to explain?
 
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I don't fully understand what you mean. Care to explain?

It's about the self-sacrafice of Jesus before the foundation of the world. Basically, God knows how to overcome all evil and our short life experiences here and now are just a small part of how God has and is and will do that through the body of Christ.
 
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It's about the self-sacrafice of Jesus before the foundation of the world. Basically, God knows how to overcome all evil and our short life experiences here and now are just a small part of how God has and is and will do that through the body of Christ.
So how should we relate all this to our brain?
 
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Of course you're not dreaming. Why would anyone think they're dreaming? It's not a dream. That's preposterous. Never listen to some who tries to convince you that you're in a dream because you're not in a dream. No way, no how. Not dreaming. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a job to do.

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So yiou can definitely prove that you are not a brain in a vat? How so?
 
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So how should we relate all this to our brain?

My post was in response to what KCfromNC said, which had nothing to do with the brain, but everything to do with badmouthing God.

Anyhow, off topic. I'll move on.
 
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So yiou can definitely prove that you are not a brain in a vat? How so?

Ah, you missed the Inception subtext; the post was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. You see, an extractor doesn't want the mark to start wondering if he's dreaming; he wants him to be fully convinced that he's not. That is, until it's time for the "Mr. Charles" gambit...
 
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My post was in response to what KCfromNC said, which had nothing to do with the brain, but everything to do with badmouthing God.

Anyhow, off topic. I'll move on.
Sorry! I should have checked to see who you were responding to. My mistake.
 
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Why is DMT connected to the third eye when i search it? Google DMT and look at the photos, New Age (third eye of shiva), and baphomet, i think its effects are connected to -as they call it-(enlightenment)?



Looked up DMT and came across this:


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Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) is a powerful psychedelic drug, and a type of tryptamine alkaloid. It is a naturally occurring substance, found in various plants and animals, and in small quantities in the human brain, where its function is unknown. DMT is famous for its power. Though the psychedelic trip it creates only lasts 5 to 30 minutes when smoked, the effect is profound and remarkable, with the feeling that the user is transported to a completely different place, immersed in kaleidoscopic sounds and images. In its pure form, the drug is a white to yellow crystalline solid.

DMT has been consumed throughout history and into prehistory by indigenous peoples, especially in South America, where it is consumed during shamanic rituals and called ayhuasca. This is done by combining plant material that contains it with a monoamine oxide inhibitor, a special chemical that allows the drug to avoid digestion by the stomach and reach the bloodstream. Evidence of DMT consumption by indigenous peoples in South America stretches back to at least 2130 BC. A pipe made from puma bone of that age was tested positive for the substance. Smoking it would give the users visions and feelings that they associated with magical sources, putting them into contact with "spirits" they could consult on matters of plants, disease, etc.
What is DMT? (with pictures)
 
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This video focuses on areas of the brain which are fascinatingly mysterious and still under intense study.

I find it interesting that ID/creationists think God is found in our ignorance.

If something is a mystery, then it means that no one knows how it works. If you don't know how something works, then it can't be evidence for whatever you want to believe.
 
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