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My wife has advanced Alzheimer's disease.
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<blockquote data-quote="DogmaHunter" data-source="post: 73450560" data-attributes="member: 346237"><p>Here come the ad hominims and the handwaving.</p><p></p><p>My motivation is not the issue, nore is it your business.</p><p>And if the dude wanted christian-only advice, he could have just posted the thread in the christian-only section, which comprises the vast majority of this forum. I have these 4-5 sub forums I get access to. Now you are going to complain that I'm posting in that small section where I'm actually allowed to?</p><p></p><p>Whatever keeps you from addressing the points raised, I guess?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, you just had to<em> preach</em> your personal religious views and talk about them as they are the ONLY correct interpretation and declare them all as absolute truth.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>According to YOUR personal religious beliefs. Clearly, not according to that pastor's personal religious beliefs. But here you are again,<em> declaring</em> that you know better. Not opening up a conversation. Not looking for a middle ground. Not even prepared to listen.</p><p>Just declaring that "on its face", clearly you are right and they are wrong and that's the end of it. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, according to YOUR personal religious beliefs. Not according to that pastor's religious beliefs. And also not according to the personal religious beliefs of a few other participants in this thread. And once again, here you are,<em> declaring</em> that you are correct and everyone that disagrees must be wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Aha! But then, you would actually be able to present to actual moral reasoning behind calling it wrong - and that WITHOUT having to appeal to your personal religious beliefs. You could point at the very real harm done, at the very real victims etc.</p><p></p><p>You'ld have an actual argument, instead of religious declarations.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>psssssst: you literally just said that the pastor he talked to, <em>doesn't have the faintest idea of what a relationship with Jesus entails in terms of privileges and obligations</em></p><p></p><p>And you know what? Indeed,<em> absolutely no surprises here either.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p>Because you know... that pastor? Gave the SAME advice as me!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ow really?</p><p>Tell me: WHAT consequences? In this specific situation?</p><p>The guy's wife more often then not<em> doesn't even remember who he is</em>, and that will<em> only get worse</em>.</p><p></p><p>So please, tell me: WHAT consequences?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, aren't we thinking a bit much about ourselves.....</p><p>So, who's the pastor in this story? A lumberjack, while you are the nuclear physicist?</p><p></p><p></p><p>So if you must know why I'm responding to your post... read my nickname. I'm a dogma hunter. You are presenting dogma (and, I would argue, causing harm in the process). So I'm hunting it down, in context of the OP. I can do that in this section of the forum.</p><p></p><p>If you want me to stop it, that's easy: stop presenting your personal religious beliefs as if they are absolute facts that all other theists must adhere to and agree with. But I don't think you're capable of it. So here we are, playing this game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyhow, I look forward to you explaining what the consequences would be here, in this specific situation of the OP, if he starts a relationship with the other woman. Real-world consequences only please.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DogmaHunter, post: 73450560, member: 346237"] Here come the ad hominims and the handwaving. My motivation is not the issue, nore is it your business. And if the dude wanted christian-only advice, he could have just posted the thread in the christian-only section, which comprises the vast majority of this forum. I have these 4-5 sub forums I get access to. Now you are going to complain that I'm posting in that small section where I'm actually allowed to? Whatever keeps you from addressing the points raised, I guess? Yes, you just had to[I] preach[/I] your personal religious views and talk about them as they are the ONLY correct interpretation and declare them all as absolute truth. According to YOUR personal religious beliefs. Clearly, not according to that pastor's personal religious beliefs. But here you are again,[I] declaring[/I] that you know better. Not opening up a conversation. Not looking for a middle ground. Not even prepared to listen. Just declaring that "on its face", clearly you are right and they are wrong and that's the end of it. Again, according to YOUR personal religious beliefs. Not according to that pastor's religious beliefs. And also not according to the personal religious beliefs of a few other participants in this thread. And once again, here you are,[I] declaring[/I] that you are correct and everyone that disagrees must be wrong. Aha! But then, you would actually be able to present to actual moral reasoning behind calling it wrong - and that WITHOUT having to appeal to your personal religious beliefs. You could point at the very real harm done, at the very real victims etc. You'ld have an actual argument, instead of religious declarations. psssssst: you literally just said that the pastor he talked to, [I]doesn't have the faintest idea of what a relationship with Jesus entails in terms of privileges and obligations[/I] And you know what? Indeed,[I] absolutely no surprises here either. [/I] Because you know... that pastor? Gave the SAME advice as me! Ow really? Tell me: WHAT consequences? In this specific situation? The guy's wife more often then not[I] doesn't even remember who he is[/I], and that will[I] only get worse[/I]. So please, tell me: WHAT consequences? Well, aren't we thinking a bit much about ourselves..... So, who's the pastor in this story? A lumberjack, while you are the nuclear physicist? So if you must know why I'm responding to your post... read my nickname. I'm a dogma hunter. You are presenting dogma (and, I would argue, causing harm in the process). So I'm hunting it down, in context of the OP. I can do that in this section of the forum. If you want me to stop it, that's easy: stop presenting your personal religious beliefs as if they are absolute facts that all other theists must adhere to and agree with. But I don't think you're capable of it. So here we are, playing this game. Anyhow, I look forward to you explaining what the consequences would be here, in this specific situation of the OP, if he starts a relationship with the other woman. Real-world consequences only please. [/QUOTE]
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