My Pool Challenge

[AV1611VET]

Take a look at this picture:

Let's say someone set these balls down this way.

Later, someone looking at it says, "Nice break."

Was he wrong?

 

[cloudyday2]

I can see two issues:
(1) Could that configuration happen after a pool break?
(2) Is it wrong to believe that a break happened as opposed to somebody setting the balls there or two bad players (like me) taking several turns without accomplishing much?

I guess he was wrong?

 

[AV1611VET]

(1) Could that configuration happen after a pool break?

Yes, indeed.

In fact, with the right microcode, a robot arm can set those balls up and shoot that configuration 99 times out of 100.

 

[joshua 1 9]

99 times out of 100.

99 out of 100 is pretty sloppy. I was watching a program on TV where the tolerance on the mirror for the Hubble was within one millionth. They had to work at night because the vibration of the cars in the parking lot would throw them off.

 

[cloudyday2]

Yes, indeed.

In fact, with the right microcode, a robot arm can set those balls up and shoot that configuration 99 times out of 100.

I guess the person was still wrong to assume the configuration resulted from a break when it resulted from something else.

 

[AV1611VET]

I guess the person was still wrong to assume the configuration resulted from a break when it resulted from something else.

BINGO!

 

[Kylie]

Take a look at this picture:

Let's say someone set these balls down this way.

Later, someone looking at it says, "Nice break."

Was he wrong?

Let's say someone broke, and then a second person wrote down a statement claiming that he had not broken, but had simply placed the balls in this position. Later, a third person comes in, reads the documentation and concludes that the documentation MUST be right, and anyone who says the balls reached this position as a result of regular play is terribly wrong. The third person refuses to consider any alternative, and claims, "The documentation says it, that settles it!"

Is the third person right?

 

[AV1611VET]

Is the third person right?

No.

And in your opinion, will the second person die a martyr's death for writing that, if he was given a choice?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

No self-respecting pool hustler would break with the triangle in the way, so it must have been set up that way.

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

No.

And in your opinion, will the second person die a martyr's death for writing that, if he was given a choice?

Sometimes, yes - other times, they may not have a choice. Just go back to the Salem Witch Trials for all the accused innocents, some too young to know, or some that were talked into admitting they were Witches for a more lenient judgement, only to be condemned anyway.

A Brief History of the Salem Witch Trials | History | Smithsonian
Salem witch trials - Wikipedia

 

[AV1611VET]

Just go back to the Salem Witch Trials ...

No, thanks.

That's not the example Kylie used.

 

[Kylie]

No.

So you agree that a person can believe the documentation and be wrong. What should the person do in order to find out if the documentation is correct? If they could analyse the position of the balls and see how they could move from the starting configuration to the present configuration, do you think that would give them some useful information about what happened?

And in your opinion, will the second person die a martyr's death for writing that, if he was given a choice?

Who knows?

But here's a question...

If I wanted you to believe the documentation, do you think I would lie and tell you that the second person died a martyr for writing it, even if he didn't?

 

[AV1611VET]

So you agree that a person can believe the documentation and be wrong.

Of course.

The Koran is a good example.

What should the person do in order to find out if the documentation is correct?

I really wish you would start your own thread on this, instead of hijacking mine, but to answer your question, the person who broke should have documented it.

If they could analyse the position of the balls and see how they could move from the starting configuration to the present configuration, do you think that would give them some useful information about what happened?

Did I not do that already with the robot arm and microcode post?

Who knows?

But here's a question...[/quote]
No one, if you keep moving the goalpost.

If I wanted you to believe the documentation, do you think I would lie and tell you that the second person died a martyr for writing it, even if he didn't?

Please start your own thread on this ... thanks.

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

No, thanks.

That's not the example Kylie used.

Are you saying the second person wouldn't be crucified by the third person without a choice, then later on the third person claims the second died a martyr?

 

[AV1611VET]

Are you saying the second person wouldn't be crucified by the third person without a choice, then later on the third person claims the second died a martyr?

I'll pass.

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

Who knows?

But here's a question...

If I wanted you to believe the documentation, do you think I would lie and tell you that the second person died a martyr for writing it, even if he didn't?

Ooh, Good Call - beat me to it... -_-

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

I'll pass.

difficult questions and all, right?

 

[AV1611VET]

difficult questions and all, right?

I don't call these challenge threads for nothing.

One of the challenges is to respect the OP as it is written.

And believe me, respect is a challenge.

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

I don't call these challenge threads for nothing.

One of the challenges is to respect the OP as it is written.

And believe me, respect is a challenge.

so, you do want to explore the difficult questions (i.e. why you raise these challenges threads), or you don't? Now I'm confused? Not sure how the OP isn't being respected - after all, we are exploring the challenge, right??

 

[SkyWriting]

99 out of 100 is pretty sloppy. I was watching a program on TV where the tolerance on the mirror for the Hubble was within one millionth. They had to work at night because the vibration of the cars in the parking lot would throw them off.

In space the accuracy would improve.