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Then that begs the question of why. For instance, if The Flood actually happened, why would god want to "clean up" the evidence to make it appear that The Flood never happened? That seems deceitful.
Do you really feel you have to ask why God cleaned up all that mess?Then that begs the question of why.
He didn't clean up 'the evidence to make it appear that the Flood never happened'.For instance, if The Flood actually happened, why would god want to "clean up" the evidence to make it appear that The Flood never happened?
Of course it does -- but only because you won't see the forest for the trees.That seems deceitful.
Or perhaps that if you answered it, you be put in the position of either admitting that there's no just reason for believing in something that has no evidence, or giving equal weight to any nonsense idea that comes along.
And neither of those is very good, is it? And yet that is what your position has led you to.
Want me to ask it without the algebra? Fine.
If an event always causes certain consequences, is there any reaon to believe that the event took place if those consequences do not exist?
We are told that God was greived that He made man. So he wanted to "clean up" the mess. That was the whole point of the flood was not to leave any evidence. God was going to start fresh with just Moses and his family.Then that begs the question of why. For instance, if The Flood actually happened, why would god want to "clean up" the evidence to make it appear that The Flood never happened? That seems deceitful.
Is there any verse that says that the point of the Flood was to wipe out evidence? In my reading of it, I only see references to God's regret* at the sin of humanity.We are told that God was greived that He made man. So he wanted to "clean up" the mess. That was the whole point of the flood was not to leave any evidence. God was going to start fresh with just Moses and his family.
You sound like that was His intent -- to 'make it indicate that the Flood couldnt have occurred'.So lemme get this straight...
God not only removes evidence of the Flood, but makes it so that all available evidence from the real world indicates that the flood couldn't have occured.
You sound like that was His intent -- to 'make it indicate that the Flood couldnt have occurred'.
If that was so, then God would not have had the story of the Flood preserved thorough all eternity.
I find it difficult to believe God would intentionally rearrange the aftermath to look one way, and intentionally write the story another.
As I said before, Shem, Noah's son, lived right up to the time of the birth of Jacob -- providing eyewitness testimony of the Flood to everyone who wanted to know what happened.
The written records took it from there.
Not trying what? to think like you?What utter nonsense -- you're not even trying anymore, are you, AV?
For me I still follow the scientific definition for destroy. I am a annilationist. When God destorys something He does not leave any evidence that it ever existed.Is there any verse that says that the point of the Flood was to wipe out evidence? In my reading of it, I only see references to God's regret* at the sin of humanity.
*How can an all-knowing being regret anything? Didn't he know what would happen?
For me I still follow the scientific definition for destroy. I am a annilationist. When God destorys something He does not leave any evidence that it ever existed.
Heb 8 12 "For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more."
Evidently, since it's recorded in the Bible, God does remember it. Besides, what makes you think this applies to every single thing God chooses to annihilate? Why would God go to the effort of wiping out all of humanity with a global flood, and have this event recorded and preserved in the most popular religious text of the modern age - if he didn't want it to be remembered? Doesn't God create the rainbow as a symbol of the Flood?For me I still follow the scientific definition for destroy. I am a annilationist. When God destorys something He does not leave any evidence that it ever existed.
Heb 8 12 "For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more."
These types of questions are not allowed. Sorry.Evidently, since it's recorded in the Bible, God does remember it. Besides, what makes you think this applies to every single thing God chooses to annihilate? Why would God go to the effort of wiping out all of humanity with a global flood, and have this event recorded and preserved in the most popular religious text of the modern age - if he didn't want it to be remembered? Doesn't God create the rainbow as a symbol of the Flood?
Hebrews 8:12 doesn't imply that God wipes out evidence, since he evidently left that memory in the Bible itself. So what makes you think it implies he wiped out physical evidence of the Flood?
I find it difficult to believe God would intentionally rearrange the aftermath to look one way, and intentionally write the story another.
Not that I know of; that's why God documented it in His Diary.Let me ask you - other than the bible, is there anything that tells us that the flood occured?
Not that I know of; that's why God documented it in His Diary.
Not that I know of; that's why God documented it in His Diary.
He did not wipe out all of humanity. What he did wipe out, there is no record of. In my family we have written records that goes back to 800 ad. Before that date all the records were destroyed. There could not have been what you call a global flood, because of the evidence. The flood had to be what people call a local flood, in the land of Eden. The only thing that remains from Eden is what was on the Ark. Everything else was destoryed and no record of any of it remains, other then a brief mention of it in the Bible.Why would God go to the effort of wiping out all of humanity with a global flood
It is called shadows and types. Isreal was a type of the world today. What God did back then in Isreal He is doing today in the whole world. That is why when God destroyed Isreal in 70 ad, that is a type of the destruction that will soon come upon the whole world at the end of the age we currently live in. Then He will begin something new that will last 1000 years.Why bother "Cleaning up" and hiding the evidence if you're going to write a full confession, anyway?
I don't buy it. God is sounding worse than Satan.It is called shadows and types. Isreal was a type of the world today. What God did back then in Isreal He is doing today in the whole world. That is why when God destroyed Isreal in 70 ad, that is a type of the destruction that will soon come upon the whole world at the end of the age we currently live in. Then He will begin something new that will last 1000 years.
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