My Enoch Challenge

[AV1611VET]

Produce evidence that verifies this:

Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

... or admit that there are things God did that didn't generate any.

 

[CaliforniaSun]

Produce evidence that verifies this:

Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

... or admit that there are things God did that didn't generate any.

People say the darndest things.

 

[freezerman2000]

I can't...I don't have a copy of the book of Enoch...

 

[AV1611VET]

I can't...I don't have a copy of the book of Enoch...

What do you mean you can't?

Did you see the second part of my challenge?

That 'or' is a big word, isn't it?

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Produce evidence that verifies this:

Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

... or admit that there are things God did that didn't generate any.

You are missing at least one other alternative.

 

[AV1611VET]

You are missing at least one other alternative.

No -- you might be; but I'm not.

If the challenge is too hard for you, don't take it.

(Actually, this challenge isn't for atheists, but that won't keep them from showing up and telling me they don't have an answer. Atheists love to talk about what they don't know.)

 

[Delphiki]

Produce evidence that verifies this:

Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

... or admit that there are things God did that didn't generate any.

I'll admit that if there is a God, he leaves no evidence for his existence anywhere.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

The Holy Bible is the only scientific evidence that exists.

Since Darwinists have no scientific evidence, evolution is a fairy-tale for grownups.

 

[CaliforniaSun]

The Holy Bible is the only scientific evidence that exists.

Since Darwinists have no scientific evidence, evolution is a fairy-tale for grownups.

You Hovindians are so silly.

Seriously, you crack me up.

 

[Cute Tink]

Produce evidence that verifies this:

Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

... or admit that there are things God did that didn't generate any.

Foot prints that just stop?

 

[freezerman2000]

What do you mean you can't?

Did you see the second part of my challenge?

That 'or' is a big word, isn't it?

I would need to research the passage and all pertaining to it.

 

[chilehed]

Produce more evidence than we have, or else admit that there's none at all?

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Produce evidence that verifies this:

Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

... or admit that there are things God did that didn't generate any.

False dichotomy. There is a third option: God didn't do anything at all. Enoch didn't walk with God, thus leaving no evidence that he did. We see no evidence that he did. QED...

 

[AV1611VET]

False dichotomy.

No, it's not a 'false dichotomy'.

There is a third option: God didn't do anything at all.

God 'not doing anything at all' is never an option to a theist.

QV the parenthetical here please: 6

 

[Wiccan_Child]

No, it's not a 'false dichotomy'.

A false dichotomy presents an either/or scenario when multiple options are available. You demand we present evidence, and if we don't, we must admit that God does this that don't leave evidence. The fact remains that we can do something else entirely:
- simply state that God doesn't exist,
- state that he exists but doesn't do anything,
- state that he exists, does things, but didn't walk with Enoch,
- state that he exists, does things, walked with Enoch, but didn't leave any evidence, or
- state that he exists, does things, walked with Enoch, leaves evidence, even though we may not actually have the evidence.

You presented one of those options as the only alternative to not presenting evidence - yet many more exist. Therefore, it's a false dichotomy. Therefore, it's fallacious.

God 'not doing anything at all' is never an option to a theist.

Sure it is. He doesn't do everything. There are some things he doesn't do (like heal amputees, stop tsunamis, etc). It's entirely possible that God simply never walked with Enoch. Since that scenario would leave no evidence for reasons other than what you imply, why, then, do you think we must admit that God can do things that don't leave evidence? We can easily state that all his actions leave evidence - and, in this one case, he simply didn't act.

Again, false dichotomy.

QV the parenthetical here please: 6

The parenthetical is irrelevant.

 

[Cute Tink]

What about a third option that simply means that it was a metaphor, so God didn't literally do anything that would leave evidence?

 

[Jazer]

Produce evidence that verifies this:

Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

Soon we will have evicence because this is a shaddow and a type of the rapture that is soon to come.

 

[AV1611VET]

Soon we will have evicence because this is a shaddow and a type of the rapture that is soon to come.

Amen!

Enoch was a type of the Christians who will be raptured; whereas Noah was a type of the Christians who will go through the Tribulation.

 

[Lion Hearted Man]

Amen!

Enoch was a type of the Christians who will be raptured; whereas Noah was a type of the Christians who will go through the Tribulation.

If you spent as much time learning about logic and reason (and fallacies) as you did fantasizing about the rapture, you might be useful here.

 

[Tim Myers]

"Produce evidence that verifies this:

Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

... or admit that there are things God did that didn't generate any."


........or admit none of it ever actually happened........