I hope that is the correct spelling, lol. Anyway, okay, we are gonig to this Baptist church that is my favorite Baptist one of all I have been to. There is no hope of me becoming Catholic soon, it seems, and my mom really wants me to get baptized. I know Catholics accept Protestant baptisms, but I know the truth now, ya know, I already do. It is like how non-Catholics don't take Catholics' Comunion, ya know? Is it okay by the Church? And what do you think personally? I think the guilt of knowing I disagrewe with lots of stuf there would be so heavy. My mom wants to make an appointment with the pastor (who doesn't even know I am Catholic; I dont make the sign of the cross, cuz the kids may copy for wutever reason ya know, dont wanna cause no trouble) on Wednesday. She has even tried to get in touch with him once. Anyway, well, y'all's opinions? Please give them and don't keep them in.
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Brother Charlie
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Go ahead and be baptised. Nothing wrong with it, as long as it isnt done as a pledge to follow baptist doctrine
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hmm, CeeBee, I don't know. It's a tough decision. I think you really need to pray about this and ask God what he wishes for you.
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faerieevaH
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CeeBee, what does your mother say when you tell her "I would prefer to wait and be baptised a Catholic when I am of the right age to choose for myself?"
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Oh, can someone say the CHurch's stance on this if any?
Bro. Charlie: ok
MParedon: u think i shouldn't and dont wanna say it or really udnecided. dont be afraid. speak out
faerie:well first off she says 'get baptized now and when an adult convert if ya want'
she just wants me saved now ya know i guess she is worried something may happen to me; this came about msotly cuz of this meeting at the church and they were discussing thea ge of reason where after taht age they are old enough to understand and should and if dont get baptized and die then they go to hell basically, tho not that harsh and they didnt give a certain age but definietly younger than me likee 11-13
Bro. Charlie: ok
MParedon: u think i shouldn't and dont wanna say it or really udnecided. dont be afraid. speak out
faerie:well first off she says 'get baptized now and when an adult convert if ya want'
she just wants me saved now ya know i guess she is worried something may happen to me; this came about msotly cuz of this meeting at the church and they were discussing thea ge of reason where after taht age they are old enough to understand and should and if dont get baptized and die then they go to hell basically, tho not that harsh and they didnt give a certain age but definietly younger than me likee 11-13
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I think you should pray about it.... 
If it was my situation, I would not get baptized at the Baptist Church, since you want to convert. I would wait to be baptized in the Catholic Church.
oh and top thing, don't get baptized only because your mom wants you to.
If it was my situation, I would not get baptized at the Baptist Church, since you want to convert. I would wait to be baptized in the Catholic Church.
oh and top thing, don't get baptized only because your mom wants you to.
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I'm in the undecided camp. We should honor our parents. You mom is wanting what she thinks is best for you. At the same time, If I was Catholic in my heart, it would be really tough to do something that would go against what I believed. But at the same time, the Catholic Church recognizes non-Catholic baptisizms as an invisible joining to the Church (in imperfect communion).
So, that's why I said to pray about it. It really is a tough decision from what I see.
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If you desire Baptism, CeeBee, then be baptized. Be aware of the the proceedings beforehand. Know what questions you will be asked and how you are expected to respond. If there is anything they expect you to affirm that doesn't square with your Catholicism, then ask if that part can be left out. In fact, why don't you go over to the Baptist forum and ask about the basic baptismal proceedure? 
If all it is is the pastor praying over you and using the Trinitarian formula, then there is nothing to impede your baptism. If you are asked to affirm some kind of loyalty or fidelity to Baptist Doctrine, then you may not be able to do that in good conscience.
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If all it is is the pastor praying over you and using the Trinitarian formula, then there is nothing to impede your baptism. If you are asked to affirm some kind of loyalty or fidelity to Baptist Doctrine, then you may not be able to do that in good conscience.Peace be with you!
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NO, CB.
You cannot be baptized in the Baptist Church. It is not in accord with your true faith.
Your mother does NOT have the right to make this decision for you.
If she forces you into it, it will be on her conscience, not yours. But the normally valid Baptism would not be valid because the matter (Faith) would be defective. There would also be a defect of intention. You would not be baptized.
This is a 'simulation' of a Sacrament and a very serious matter, from the Catholic perspective.
You cannot be baptized in the Baptist Church. It is not in accord with your true faith.
Your mother does NOT have the right to make this decision for you.
If she forces you into it, it will be on her conscience, not yours. But the normally valid Baptism would not be valid because the matter (Faith) would be defective. There would also be a defect of intention. You would not be baptized.
This is a 'simulation' of a Sacrament and a very serious matter, from the Catholic perspective.
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CrystalBrooke
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sit her down and explain to her how you feel, and that it's your decision whether you want to be baptized in the baptist church or not...pray about it, you can't go wrong when you do that
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St_Joseph_Cupertino
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Doh! Almost home time for me, but I want to ask...how does this equate to still living under your parent's rule? Not disrespecting her parents is also important.Michelina said:
I do understand the dilemma about the baptsim when she is fully aware of the Catholic Faith, but, wow, it is tough...Can it really work, just refusing like that?
CeeBee, I suppose that further thought lends me to think (Very subjectively, of course) that you should probably be honest with your mother and with the pastor in the appointment on Wednesday. Pray that the Holy Spirit will lead your speach.
I do, however stand corrected by those who know better and is better qualified, so, if so, please set me straight!
Peace in Christ!
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InnerPhyre
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No no no no no no no no no. For heaven's sake, NO! You have every right to be baptized in the Catholic Church. No one can take that from you. Wait until you are 18 if you have to. As is, you desire baptism in the Church, and the Lord will honor that, just as He honored the good thief's desire for salvation at calvery. In a couple of years, you will be able to drive yourself to the church of your choice, and things will really start to open up. Again, no one can force you to confess a faith that you do not hold. You are not a Baptist. In your heart, you are Catholic.
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Aha! That's it, well said! thanks, I understand now too!InnerPhyre said:
Peace in Christ!
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St_Joseph_Cupertino said:
St Joe, CB (who used to be Catholic Boy) has been discussing his situation with us for quite a while. We have encouraged him to respect his mother's decisions about not allowing him to become a Catholic or even go to Mass. But Baptism requires an act of Faith and she cannot make an act of Faith for him. Our Church allows the parents to supply an act of faith for children not old enough to understand the Faith. Thus we allow infant Baptisms.
As I said, if CB's Mom pressures him into a simulation of Baptism, it is on her conscience. He needn't resist her beyond what is feasible in his relationship with her. Some Mothers can be very effective in getting their sons and daaughters to do what they want. It won't be CB's fault. He knows how much he will be able to resist her. It should not trouble HIS conscience.
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Excellent Advice, CB. Wednesday may be your best shot. Let the Pastor know the truth, if your Mom will allow you.
No matter what happens, we (your OBOB friends) are always with you. We love you!
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InnerPhyre
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You give no honor to your mother by embracing a heretical faith. Yes we must honor our parents, but following Jesus trumps that. Jesus Himself said so.
"If anyone comes to me, and doesn't hate his own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he can't be my disciple"
Another said, "I will follow you, Lord; but let me first say farewell to those at my home." Jesus said to him, "No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God."
"If anyone comes to me, and doesn't hate his own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he can't be my disciple"
Another said, "I will follow you, Lord; but let me first say farewell to those at my home." Jesus said to him, "No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God."
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I'm sorry. I certainly don't mean to give a view that contradicts the Church. I guess I just fail to see how being baptized in a Baptist Church invalidates the Sacrament. Many Catholic converts were previously baptized into these 'heretical faiths' and the Church considers the baptisms perfectly valid. What is the difference? If the intent is to confect the Sacrament, using the Trinitarian formula, what exactly is the impediment? He will not be professing the Baptist faith, or any faith, other than the faith in Christ and His promise that we are reborn to Him in baptism.
I guess I need help here, too.
I guess I need help here, too.
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Another thing to add, after a Pentecostal service, I got emotional, if from the music or what I don't know, and my mom and i elft and i was crying and I accepted jesus then she says i am saved that baptism will just make it official and be a show of my faith in christ. sorry, in hurry. oh, i had barely been discovering catholicism then, was like ayear ago. plese keep posting g2g oh she made the appointmend for wed.
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ZooMom said:I'm sorry. I certainly don't mean to give a view that contradicts the Church. I guess I just fail to see how being baptized in a Baptist Church invalidates the Sacrament. Many Catholic converts were previously baptized into these 'heretical faiths' and the Church considers the baptisms perfectly valid. What is the difference? If the intent is to confect the Sacrament, using the Trinitarian formula, what exactly is the impediment? He will not be professing the Baptist faith, or any faith, other than the faith in Christ and His promise that we are reborn to Him in baptism.
I guess I need help here, too.
If he gets baptized in that church it will be valid, but won't he have to make some sort of confession of faith? Will that confession contain things that contradict Catholic doctrine? These are the things that worry me. Perhaps my words were too strong, but there's a difference between being Catholic in your heart and being baptized in another church and being a member of a church, being baptized in it, and converting to Catholicism. It's like confessing with an Orthodox priest. It's valid, but you shouldn't do it when you can just go to your Catholic Church and do it. I don't see a huge rush for CeeBee to be baptized. He has the desire in his heart. Baptism is as big a step as marriage. Isn't it better to hold off for a bit and see if you can convince your mother to let you be baptized by a priest than rush off and be Baptized in a protestant church?
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