The words above are from a speech by Carl Schurz.
The following words resonated with me. The link is here at Daily Kos.
What defines your patriotism?
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The words above are from a speech by Carl Schurz.Our countrywhen right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right.
What defines your patriotism?I am an American citizen. I love my country. I revel in its history and marvel at its achievements. I am grateful for its freedoms and cherish the values upon which it was created. I fly the flag in my front yard and have voted in every election since I turned 18, except for that one local election many years ago when I had the flu. I have voted for Republicans and Democrats and Independents, although I confess there arent many Republicans I could stomach voting for in todays savagely polarized political climate.
I am proud of Americas soldiers and sailors, both past and present. I am proud that I have ancestors who have served their country in nearly every conflict in Americas history...
I am also aware that our military men and women do not hold a monopoly on service to their country. I am proud of the contributions of Americas working people. I am proud to be the descendant of builders, stonemasons, merchant seamen, coal miners, railroad workers, and shopkeepers...
I say all this because apparently these days it is necessary to do so. Because my definition of patriotism differs from that of some others, I am called upon to affirm it again and again to the combative, the cynical and the downright ignorant. Like the Freedom Riders, Vietnam protestors, and todays Occupy Wall Street activists, those who raise their voices or take to their computers to express a difference of opinion can expect to be shouted down or worse by those who believe that the truest Americans are the most complacent and compliant Americans.
What defines your patriotism?
It's tough, patriotism appeals to human nature, but I simply can't ignore the words of 1John 2:15 and James 4:4What defines your patriotism?
But do any of you agree with the words of Schurz?
I certainly do. Patriotism includes recognizing that dissent is a form of patriotism, just as defending the status quo.
Advocating the overthrow of elected officials through any means other than the legal channels like the ballot box is NOT patriotism.
I certainly do. Patriotism includes recognizing that dissent is a form of patriotism, just as defending the status quo.
Advocating the overthrow of elected officials through any means other than the legal channels like the ballot box is NOT patriotism.
A government is not the same thing as patriotism. You can be an anarchist but also a patriot because you still love your country, you are just against government. But I guess there are people in this country nowadays that are just in love with government and don't care for this country.
What defines your patriotism?
The author of the little opinion piece disguised as what I believe to be a cliff not of a biography goes to great lengths to attach himself somehow on the coattails of this historical figure to dig at conservatives and promote socialism. Because of why? I do not know. Im somehow missing the connection other than Barrys surge of troops in Afghanistan and stupid rules of engagement, combined with his kill lists for his drone patrol.Patriotism isn't a love of the government but a people, culture, and a country. I am not a big fan on my government, but I love my country.
I am a Patriot, of a country aka the "United States of America" that in its Declaration of Independence, says:We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
My patriotism is limited to the kingdom of heaven, where my citizenship was secured by the blood of Christ. That said, I do believe that as citizens of this kingdom, we've been instructed by our King to peacefully invade the kingdoms of the world by our example, not by force. Christians who wear the name but act like the world (through the endorsement of violence, idolatry toward human leaders, oppression, etc.) take the name of the Lord in vain and hinder this effort.
Anarchists are often painted with a broad brush, but violent overthrow of the government is a goal held by the minority. The unifying theme in anarchism is that they are against hierarchical governmental structures. There are two legitimate uses of hierarchy, IMO: The parent/child relationship, and the God/child relationship.
Well, when the Lord returns and sets up his government in place of our own, I will go along.
Anarchists are painted with a broad brush because they paint with a 'roller'.
Our Lord said that we should, "render to Caesar, that which is Caesar's".
15 Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. 16 They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. “Teacher,” they said, “we know that you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are. 17 Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay the imperial tax[a] to Caesar or not?”
18 But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? 19 Show me the coin used for paying the tax.” They brought him a denarius, 20 and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?”
21 “Caesar’s,” they replied.
Then he said to them, “So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”
22 When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away.
There are other places in scripture that indicate that leadership is "ordained" (Romans 13).
Obviously, we are to never hold anything or anyone on an equal level as the Lord. I don't believe any of us here would hold government, any government, in that high of a level.
Advocating the overthrow of elected officials through any means other than the legal channels like the ballot box is NOT patriotism.
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