My Archaeological Challenge

[AV1611VET]

Since I'm always making the point that scientists can't find 2,000,000 Jews in a desert, let alone Noah's Ark, or a Babe in a manger or whatever; I thought I would help them out by posting this passage of Scripture.

It's almost as if God had scientists in mind when He commanded Moses to keep a log.

In any event, here's their route:

Numbers 33:1 These are the journeys of the children of Israel, which went forth out of the land of Egypt with their armies under the hand of Moses and Aaron.
2 And Moses wrote their goings out according to their journeys by the commandment of the LORD: and these are their journeys according to their goings out.
3 And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the morrow after the passover the children of Israel went out with an high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians.
4 For the Egyptians buried all their firstborn, which the LORD had smitten among them: upon their gods also the LORD executed judgments.
5 And the children of Israel removed from Rameses, and pitched in Succoth.
6 And they departed from Succoth, and pitched in Etham, which is in the edge of the wilderness.
7 And they removed from Etham, and turned again unto Pihahiroth, which is before Baalzephon: and they pitched before Migdol.
8 And they departed from before Pihahiroth, and passed through the midst of the sea into the wilderness, and went three days' journey in the wilderness of Etham, and pitched in Marah.
9 And they removed from Marah, and came unto Elim: and in Elim were twelve fountains of water, and threescore and ten palm trees; and they pitched there.
10 And they removed from Elim, and encamped by the Red sea.
11 And they removed from the Red sea, and encamped in the wilderness of Sin.
12 And they took their journey out of the wilderness of Sin, and encamped in Dophkah.
13 And they departed from Dophkah, and encamped in Alush.
14 And they removed from Alush, and encamped at Rephidim, where was no water for the people to drink.
15 And they departed from Rephidim, and pitched in the wilderness of Sinai.
16 And they removed from the desert of Sinai, and pitched at Kibrothhattaavah.
17 And they departed from Kibrothhattaavah, and encamped at Hazeroth.
18 And they departed from Hazeroth, and pitched in Rithmah.
19 And they departed from Rithmah, and pitched at Rimmonparez.
20 And they departed from Rimmonparez, and pitched in Libnah.
21 And they removed from Libnah, and pitched at Rissah.
22 And they journeyed from Rissah, and pitched in Kehelathah.
23 And they went from Kehelathah, and pitched in mount Shapher.
24 And they removed from mount Shapher, and encamped in Haradah.
25 And they removed from Haradah, and pitched in Makheloth.
26 And they removed from Makheloth, and encamped at Tahath.
27 And they departed from Tahath, and pitched at Tarah.
28 And they removed from Tarah, and pitched in Mithcah.
29 And they went from Mithcah, and pitched in Hashmonah.
30 And they departed from Hashmonah, and encamped at Moseroth.
31 And they departed from Moseroth, and pitched in Benejaakan.
32 And they removed from Benejaakan, and encamped at Horhagidgad.
33 And they went from Horhagidgad, and pitched in Jotbathah.
34 And they removed from Jotbathah, and encamped at Ebronah.
35 And they departed from Ebronah, and encamped at Eziongaber.
36 And they removed from Eziongaber, and pitched in the wilderness of Zin, which is Kadesh.
37 And they removed from Kadesh, and pitched in mount Hor, in the edge of the land of Edom.
38 And Aaron the priest went up into mount Hor at the commandment of the LORD, and died there, in the fortieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the first day of the fifth month.
39 And Aaron was an hundred and twenty and three years old when he died in mount Hor.
40 And king Arad the Canaanite, which dwelt in the south in the land of Canaan, heard of the coming of the children of Israel.
41 And they departed from mount Hor, and pitched in Zalmonah.
42 And they departed from Zalmonah, and pitched in Punon.
43 And they departed from Punon, and pitched in Oboth.
44 And they departed from Oboth, and pitched in Ijeabarim, in the border of Moab.
45 And they departed from Iim, and pitched in Dibongad.
46 And they removed from Dibongad, and encamped in Almondiblathaim.
47 And they removed from Almondiblathaim, and pitched in the mountains of Abarim, before Nebo.
48 And they departed from the mountains of Abarim, and pitched in the plains of Moab by Jordan near Jericho.
49 And they pitched by Jordan, from Bethjesimoth even unto Abelshittim in the plains of Moab.

 

[HitchSlap]

Since I'm always making the point that scientists can't find 2,000,000 Jews in a desert, let alone Noah's Ark, or a Babe in a manger or whatever; I thought I would help them out by posting this passage of Scripture.

It's almost as if God had scientists in mind when He commanded Moses to keep a log.

It's almost as if the stories in the bible never happened.

 

[essentialsaltes]

What is the challenge, exactly?

 

[HitchSlap]

What is the challenge, exactly?

Prove 2,000,000 Jews were in a desert using only the items in your pockets.

 

[Sayre]

Prove 2,000,000 Jews were in a desert using only the items in your pockets.

I've got a banana and some lint in my pocket.

 

[AV1611VET]

Prove 2,000,000 Jews were in a desert using only the items in your pockets.

Is that what you got from the OP?

You must be a scientist, I take it?

 

[AV1611VET]

I've got a banana and some lint in my pocket.

I'd say you have just about as much chance at using that, as you do your most sophisticated equipment.

That's why I take your myopic science with a grain of salt when it comes to Biblical things.

 

[HitchSlap]

I'd say you have just about as much chance at using that, as you do your most sophisticated equipment.

That's why I take your myopic science with a grain of salt when it comes to Biblical things.

"Myopic science" must seem like Grand Canyon from where you're sitting, 'eh?

 

[Davian]

I'd say you have just about as much chance at using that, as you do your most sophisticated equipment.

That's why I take your myopic science with a grain of salt when it comes to Biblical things.

And to fairies, Bermuda triangle(s), reptilian humanoids, dowsing, alchemy, shamanism, and witchcraft.

It's a true miracle we can have these mysterious things known as "kompooters".

 

[jacks]

Hi AV

Perhaps thing would have been easier if they had turned left in Albuquerque!

 

[Steve Petersen]

Hi AV

Perhaps thing would have been easier if they had turned left in Albuquerque!

Bugs Bunny Albuquerque - YouTube

 

[AV1611VET]

Hi AV

Perhaps thing would have been easier if they had turned left in Albuquerque!

... Ya think!?

 

[Kylie]

Since I'm always making the point that scientists can't find 2,000,000 Jews in a desert, let alone Noah's Ark, or a Babe in a manger or whatever; I thought I would help them out by posting this passage of Scripture.

It's almost as if God had scientists in mind when He commanded Moses to keep a log.

In any event, here's their route:

Numbers 33:1 These are the journeys of the children of Israel, which went forth out of the land of Egypt with their armies under the hand of Moses and Aaron.
2 And Moses wrote their goings out according to their journeys by the commandment of the LORD: and these are their journeys according to their goings out.
3 And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the morrow after the passover the children of Israel went out with an high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians.
4 For the Egyptians buried all their firstborn, which the LORD had smitten among them: upon their gods also the LORD executed judgments.
5 And the children of Israel removed from Rameses, and pitched in Succoth.
6 And they departed from Succoth, and pitched in Etham, which is in the edge of the wilderness.
7 And they removed from Etham, and turned again unto Pihahiroth, which is before Baalzephon: and they pitched before Migdol.
8 And they departed from before Pihahiroth, and passed through the midst of the sea into the wilderness, and went three days' journey in the wilderness of Etham, and pitched in Marah.
9 And they removed from Marah, and came unto Elim: and in Elim were twelve fountains of water, and threescore and ten palm trees; and they pitched there.
10 And they removed from Elim, and encamped by the Red sea.
11 And they removed from the Red sea, and encamped in the wilderness of Sin.
12 And they took their journey out of the wilderness of Sin, and encamped in Dophkah.
13 And they departed from Dophkah, and encamped in Alush.
14 And they removed from Alush, and encamped at Rephidim, where was no water for the people to drink.
15 And they departed from Rephidim, and pitched in the wilderness of Sinai.
16 And they removed from the desert of Sinai, and pitched at Kibrothhattaavah.
17 And they departed from Kibrothhattaavah, and encamped at Hazeroth.
18 And they departed from Hazeroth, and pitched in Rithmah.
19 And they departed from Rithmah, and pitched at Rimmonparez.
20 And they departed from Rimmonparez, and pitched in Libnah.
21 And they removed from Libnah, and pitched at Rissah.
22 And they journeyed from Rissah, and pitched in Kehelathah.
23 And they went from Kehelathah, and pitched in mount Shapher.
24 And they removed from mount Shapher, and encamped in Haradah.
25 And they removed from Haradah, and pitched in Makheloth.
26 And they removed from Makheloth, and encamped at Tahath.
27 And they departed from Tahath, and pitched at Tarah.
28 And they removed from Tarah, and pitched in Mithcah.
29 And they went from Mithcah, and pitched in Hashmonah.
30 And they departed from Hashmonah, and encamped at Moseroth.
31 And they departed from Moseroth, and pitched in Benejaakan.
32 And they removed from Benejaakan, and encamped at Horhagidgad.
33 And they went from Horhagidgad, and pitched in Jotbathah.
34 And they removed from Jotbathah, and encamped at Ebronah.
35 And they departed from Ebronah, and encamped at Eziongaber.
36 And they removed from Eziongaber, and pitched in the wilderness of Zin, which is Kadesh.
37 And they removed from Kadesh, and pitched in mount Hor, in the edge of the land of Edom.
38 And Aaron the priest went up into mount Hor at the commandment of the LORD, and died there, in the fortieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the first day of the fifth month.
39 And Aaron was an hundred and twenty and three years old when he died in mount Hor.
40 And king Arad the Canaanite, which dwelt in the south in the land of Canaan, heard of the coming of the children of Israel.
41 And they departed from mount Hor, and pitched in Zalmonah.
42 And they departed from Zalmonah, and pitched in Punon.
43 And they departed from Punon, and pitched in Oboth.
44 And they departed from Oboth, and pitched in Ijeabarim, in the border of Moab.
45 And they departed from Iim, and pitched in Dibongad.
46 And they removed from Dibongad, and encamped in Almondiblathaim.
47 And they removed from Almondiblathaim, and pitched in the mountains of Abarim, before Nebo.
48 And they departed from the mountains of Abarim, and pitched in the plains of Moab by Jordan near Jericho.
49 And they pitched by Jordan, from Bethjesimoth even unto Abelshittim in the plains of Moab.

So? The fact that a particular route is mentioned in an old text does not mean that the claims that a group of people actually followed that route are real.

 

[AV1611VET]

So? The fact that a particular route is mentioned in an old text does not mean that the claims that a group of people actually followed that route are real.

Just trying to help.

 

[sandwiches]

I'd say you have just about as much chance at using that, as you do your most sophisticated equipment.

I couldn't agree more. It's as though there is no possible way to show that story ever even happened. One could say that this is, in fact, good reason to believe it didn't happen. But please, by all means, don't let reality get in the way of your beliefs.

 

[Kylie]

Just trying to help.

Trying having supporting evidence for your claims before presenting them as true. That's always a great help.

 

[HitchSlap]

I couldn't agree more. It's as though there is no possible way to show that story ever even happened. One could say that this is, in fact, good reason to believe it didn't happen. But please, by all means, don't let reality get in the way of your beliefs.

Well, Alfred E. Newman's motto was "What, me worry?"

 

[ReverendDG]

Since I'm always making the point that scientists can't find 2,000,000 Jews in a desert, let alone Noah's Ark,

don't need to, the "jews" by the way they weren't jews until after the exile, they were hebrews, then once in israelites, well according to the bible. they have always been in israel, there is no evidence of them ever being in egypt, they show no signs of any egyptian influences, and their culture and those around them show no signs of the kind of disruption the exodus would cause.

scientists are just fine, you are just in denial of the truth, like all creationists.
creationism is a product of satan.

 

[AV1611VET]

creationism is a product of satan.

And where did Satan come from?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Since I'm always making the point that scientists can't find 2,000,000 Jews in a desert, let alone Noah's Ark, or a Babe in a manger or whatever; I thought I would help them out by posting this passage of Scripture.

It's almost as if God had scientists in mind when He commanded Moses to keep a log.

In any event, here's their route:

So... what's the challenge?