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Yup!Because they are going in reverse.
I deliberately made them do that, did I?Kylie said:Now, what benefit do you think there is in deliberately making people think something other than what is really going on?
BINGO!
Only I don't change the "definition of beer," I change the "kind of beer:" from root beer to alcohol.
Sorry, no. Root beer is not a "kind of beer". Your failure to provide a context makes your statement less than truthful.BINGO!
Only I don't change the "definition of beer," I change the "kind of beer:" from root beer to alcohol.
My OP stands as written.This reminds me of all those conversations with xianghua - calling something by a certain name does not make that thing what that name denotes in normal usage. It doesn't matter that somebody chose to use the word "beer" in the name, the drink is not beer.
So does my response.My OP stands as written.
I deliberately made them do that, did I?
I thought I explained this literary illusion in Post 519?So does my response.
Consider this: if I were to claim "I've eaten duck but I don't know what duck tastes like" then said it's because I had eaten Bombay Duck, would you accept that I was telling the truth about having eaten duck?
Guilty as charged.You chose language that was ambiguous, and I really don't think that you didn't know what would happen. So, I think you chose such ambiguous language intentionally. So you didn't MAKE them think that, but you certainly did everything you could to get them there.
I'll believe that when I see it.I might start a thread asking for help, since I can't pay my rent and I am about to lose everything I own.
I mean, no one needs to know I'm playing Monopoly, right?
What you did was pretend an untruth was a literary illusion. That does not mean you successfully provided a literary illusion. Would you accept my claim about eating duck is a literary illusion? Or is it a dishonest play on words?I thought I explained this literary illusion in Post 519?
My OP is just one example I made up.
There are whole bookfuls of examples available.
I'm actually pleased that you guys are considering this literary illusion a "falsehood" and "deception."Dealing with falsehood and deception. Thats the "challenge".
Birds of a feather....I'm actually pleased that you guys are considering this literary illusion a "falsehood" and "deception."
It mitigates your credibility when you apply those terms (and their synonyms) elsewhere.
Like when you apply them to the likes of: Ken Ham, Kent Hovind, Eric Hovind, ICR, DI, and others.
Yes, these goofs also use doublespeak and play fast and loose with definitions.I'm actually pleased that you guys are considering this literary illusion a "falsehood" and "deception."
It mitigates your credibility when you apply those terms (and their synonyms) elsewhere.
Like when you apply them to the likes of: Ken Ham, Kent Hovind, Eric Hovind, ICR, DI, and others.
I'd stay away from books like these, then, if I were you:Yes, these goofs also use doublespeak and play fast and loose with definitions.
Sorry, no. Root beer is not a "kind of beer". Your failure to provide a context makes your statement less than truthful.
This reminds me of all those conversations with xianghua - calling something by a certain name does not make that thing what that name denotes in normal usage. It doesn't matter that somebody chose to use the word "beer" in the name, the drink is not beer.
Guilty as charged.
In fact, if I could have made it more ambiguous, I would have.
QV Two Minute Mysteries, by Donald J Sobol.
Re-writing history doesn't count.Real root beer is a kind of beer and is alcoholic, just like a real ginger ale. Most root beer and ginger ale on the market are fake flavored soft drinks.
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