My agnostic journey has ended.

[Dazed and Confused]

Well, I know this may seem like an attention whoring topic, but I have posted here enough where I can speak without worrying what people think.

This has been a rather difficult year for me. Amid personal problems and spiritual dishevel, I have been quite confused about alot of things. Without getting into it on here, I went to God the final time recently and begged him for some type of help. (ANYTHING, easing my mind, whatever) That got me nothing but silence. I, then, called upon the devil.

Since I was young, I was told "watch out or Satan will take your soul wiht nice promises." I was taught that Satan only wanted our souls in torment and damnation. So, in my lowest hour, when I had no where's else to turn, prayer left me feeling more scared and empty, God seemingly abandoned me, I called upon the one figure I knew would help me in some way, no matter how short lived. I offered my soul to the devil in exchange for help. I got NOTHING. As I said, the devil was taught to desire only out soul, so when we offer it, it seems he would do what he can to take it. I got nothing. Then I realized something. There is no devil. He was created simply as a scapegoat to life's hardships and problems. Since there is no devil, there is no clear definition of evil anymore. Without a definition of evil, good cannot exist. Since all modern religions view God as good, and since good cannot exist, God cannot exist if there is no devil.

Once I came to terms with this, I felt a huge boulder of fear lifted off me. I was no longer concerned about if I was upsetting God by questioning what I knew vs. what I felt. I was no longer in fear of having to do everything for some deity.

I know this will generate alot of controversy, but I am honestly happy now. I don't think I will be posting anymore, if I do, it will be on a new name as I am no longer dazed or confused.

Thank all you who helped me. The answer was always staring me in the face.

 

[£amb]

Well, I know this may seem like an attention whoring topic, but I have posted here enough where I can speak without worrying what people think.

This has been a rather difficult year for me. Amid personal problems and spiritual dishevel, I have been quite confused about alot of things. Without getting into it on here, I went to God the final time recently and begged him for some type of help. (ANYTHING, easing my mind, whatever) That got me nothing but silence. I, then, called upon the devil.

Since I was young, I was told "watch out or Satan will take your soul wiht nice promises." I was taught that Satan only wanted our souls in torment and damnation. So, in my lowest hour, when I had no where's else to turn, prayer left me feeling more scared and empty, God seemingly abandoned me, I called upon the one figure I knew would help me in some way, no matter how short lived. I offered my soul to the devil in exchange for help. I got NOTHING. As I said, the devil was taught to desire only out soul, so when we offer it, it seems he would do what he can to take it. I got nothing. Then I realized something. There is no devil. He was created simply as a scapegoat to life's hardships and problems. Since there is no devil, there is no clear definition of evil anymore. Without a definition of evil, good cannot exist. Since all modern religions view God as good, and since good cannot exist, God cannot exist if there is no devil.

Once I came to terms with this, I felt a huge boulder of fear lifted off me. I was no longer concerned about if I was upsetting God by questioning what I knew vs. what I felt. I was no longer in fear of having to do everything for some deity.

I know this will generate alot of controversy, but I am honestly happy now. I don't think I will be posting anymore, if I do, it will be on a new name as I am no longer dazed or confused.

Thank all you who helped me. The answer was always staring me in the face.

If you are satisfied with what you found, then there is naught else to say.

 

[calidog]

you'll probably be back. Just because God did'nt answer your prayer does'nt mean He's done with you. thanx

 

[Key]

Well, I know this may seem like an attention whoring topic, but I have posted here enough where I can speak without worrying what people think.

This has been a rather difficult year for me. Amid personal problems and spiritual dishevel, I have been quite confused about alot of things. Without getting into it on here, I went to God the final time recently and begged him for some type of help. (ANYTHING, easing my mind, whatever) That got me nothing but silence. I, then, called upon the devil.

Since I was young, I was told "watch out or Satan will take your soul wiht nice promises." I was taught that Satan only wanted our souls in torment and damnation. So, in my lowest hour, when I had no where's else to turn, prayer left me feeling more scared and empty, God seemingly abandoned me, I called upon the one figure I knew would help me in some way, no matter how short lived. I offered my soul to the devil in exchange for help. I got NOTHING. As I said, the devil was taught to desire only out soul, so when we offer it, it seems he would do what he can to take it. I got nothing. Then I realized something. There is no devil. He was created simply as a scapegoat to life's hardships and problems. Since there is no devil, there is no clear definition of evil anymore. Without a definition of evil, good cannot exist. Since all modern religions view God as good, and since good cannot exist, God cannot exist if there is no devil.

Once I came to terms with this, I felt a huge boulder of fear lifted off me. I was no longer concerned about if I was upsetting God by questioning what I knew vs. what I felt. I was no longer in fear of having to do everything for some deity.

I know this will generate alot of controversy, but I am honestly happy now. I don't think I will be posting anymore, if I do, it will be on a new name as I am no longer dazed or confused.

Thank all you who helped me. The answer was always staring me in the face.

YOu, Umm keep clinging to that fantasy of Good and Evil thing.
Hope that holds you for a while, Well untill you realize that it's a fantasy.

Here is something for you to ponder just a moment as you carry on to your path in life.

Why would Satan do anything for your soul?

Do you not realize that it was his, the moment you turned to him.

Think of this a moment.

If Satan would have helped you, then what woudl have happned?
In the End, IF Satan came to your aid, you would have had all the proof you needed of Gods existance, and that means what?
You would have turned back to God, that moment, with full faith.

So if Satan, just watches you, go on about your merry way, with no effort on his part, he "gets" your soul in the end anyway.

And what makes you think Satan collects Souls? Sounds like one too many comic books, or fantasy movies/novels are filling your head.

But Hey.

It's your life, God Bless on what ever path you have chosen, and best wishes with it.

God Bless
Key.

 

[calidog]

YOu, Umm keep clinging to that fantasy of Good and Evil thing.
Hope that holds you for a while, Well untill you realize that it's a fantasy.

Here is something for you to ponder just a moment as you carry on to your path in life.

Why would Satan do anything for your soul?

Do you not realize that it was his, the moment you turned to him.

Think of this a moment.

If Satan would have helped you, then what woudl have happned?
In the End, IF Satan came to your aid, you would have had all the proof you needed of Gods existance, and that means what?
You would have turned back to God, that moment, with full faith.

So if Satan, just watches you, go on about your merry way, with no effort on his part, he "gets" your soul in the end anyway.

And what makes you think Satan collects Souls? Sounds like one too many comic books, or fantasy movies/novels are filling your head.

But Hey.

It's your life, God Bless on what ever path you have chosen, and best wishes with it.

God Bless
Key.

Yep. Satan's desire is to destroy us like a raging lion.

 

[calidog]

YOu, Umm keep clinging to that fantasy of Good and Evil thing.
Hope that holds you for a while, Well untill you realize that it's a fantasy.

Here is something for you to ponder just a moment as you carry on to your path in life.

Why would Satan do anything for your soul?

Do you not realize that it was his, the moment you turned to him.

Think of this a moment.

If Satan would have helped you, then what woudl have happned?
In the End, IF Satan came to your aid, you would have had all the proof you needed of Gods existance, and that means what?
You would have turned back to God, that moment, with full faith.

So if Satan, just watches you, go on about your merry way, with no effort on his part, he "gets" your soul in the end anyway.

And what makes you think Satan collects Souls? Sounds like one too many comic books, or fantasy movies/novels are filling your head.

But Hey.

It's your life, God Bless on what ever path you have chosen, and best wishes with it.

God Bless
Key.

Yep. Satan's desire is to destroy and devour us like a raging lion. (Oops, made a duplicate??)

 

[Key]

Yep. Satan's desire is to destroy and devour us like a raging lion. (Oops, made a duplicate??)

Or just pass around the pop corn while he watches us destroy ourselves.

Either way is Good, right?

God Bless
Key.

 

[whitestar]

Well that is probably the saddest post I ever read...

Of course there is good and evil in this world...you have to be blind not to see it...just turn on the news....watch CNN all day long and tell me there is no good or no evil. Shoot watch a movie....what are movies about (other then the ones about sex)...about good vs evil....read a good book...its always good vs evil. Why? Why the battle in our own souls ...the one part wanting to do the right thing, the other part wanting to cheat a little, have fun regardless at the cost.

Of course you couldn't sell your soul to satan...he already has it. Satan gladly takes our souls, but there is NO promise from him to do a thing for us....its a one sided deal...you give, he takes...end of story...

Next time you think of praying to God, you might want to include a few thank you first. People seem to go to God when they are desperate...asking for things...otherwise He is ignored. Why in the world should He answer those that just want something handed to them, that never bothered to even acknowledge Him before...that never at least bothered to says, Thank you that its not alot worse then it is...like you are currently hooked up to a bunch of machines in the hospital, dying a slow, painful death....or living on the streets freezing with no food, no place to go, or that you are straving to death in Africa after watching each of your children die that way first....I could go on and on and on.

Did you know that 80% of the people in this world have no bed to sleep in at night? And most of them only have one meal a day, if they are lucky....and live in shacks in fear, they or their families won't see the dawn of the next day...

But if you are content to think this is all happening for totally no reason...and its all just rambon acts...and can be happy with that....then I feel sorry for you. If their is no reason for our lives and when we die that is just it, then whats the point in living at all?

 

[gracechick]

I do wonder how one's journey can just end? Belief is always a journey. I don't believe one can truely feel they've reached a destination of their beliefs till they draw their last breathe.
Yes I believe it's true that the devil doesn't have to chase what he already has so you probably will not hear much from satan..CS Lewis wrote in the "Screw Tape Letters" is that the ultimate trick is to get humans to believe that demons don't exist(a demon Unlce to his nephew Screwtape).
Well the bottom line is God and His grace, salvation & judgment do not cease to exist bcause one chooses not to believe He's real. Truely He is a gentleman & will not force you to accept His loving kindness...Jesus said Himself "for behold I stand at the door & knock" so it takes absolute desire & action for the Lord to come into your life & heart.
So should you change your mind He'll still be right there standing at your door & knocking & waiting for your acceptance of Him.

All the best

 

[Brother Simon]

Brother, peace be with you,

Do not let other posters put you out or discourage you. We are all on different parts of our Walk. If you are truly seeking with an open heart, there is nothing more you can do but wait for an answer. It will come.

With love,
Simon