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I think it's far more likely that they are challenging those ideas to actually enrich people's perspectives, to make them recognize flaws and make them better as a result of being able to think more criticallySo is that why you're here? Because you like surrounding yourself with anti- science and misinformation?
Often, in the heat of a battle, things become crystal clear. Insights happen, which then present whole new perspectives and deeper understandings.So is that why you're here? Because you like surrounding yourself with anti- science and misinformation?
I think that's where jacks is coming from in his post; which is a good point.Because "bring forth" merely means teem or swarm with? Even in Genesis 2, God forms man from the dust, but man doesn't become a living being until God breathes into him the breath of life.
Anyway, that's my best shot.
So 'the act' (or process) there, is the same 'act' (or process) in both cases, then?Since God created Adam, for example, from the dust of the ground, then performed an act of "abiogenesis" by breathing life into him.
Ditto for Eve.
I may not be a scientist, but Adam's rib is not non-life, unlike the dust, so there'd only be one instance, unless we go with EVERY instance of God making the animals, which I don't think is really explained what they're made from. Even the Djinn in Islam are at least explained to have been made from smokeless fire.I think that's where jacks is coming from in his post; which is a good point.
Since God created Adam, for example, from the dust of the ground, then performed an act of "abiogenesis" by breathing life into him.
Ditto for Eve.
So it really depends on how you look at it.
Pretty sure the building blocks that can form into life are something we understand and can be studied in terms of their potential for combining and enzymes that could lead to such a development.So 'the act' (or process) there, is the same 'act' (or process) in both cases, then?
Believing God performed that 'act' is just a matter of believing that.
Believing science's Abiogenesis hypotheses, is also just a matter of believing that.
Neither belief there, makes any impact whatsoever, on either the 'act', or the 'process', resulting in life.
No.So 'the act' (or process) there, is the same 'act' (or process) in both cases, then?
Good point.I may not be a scientist, but Adam's rib is not non-life, unlike the dust,
Don't forget the plants, the fish, the birds, the bees, and everything else.muichimotsu said:... so there'd only be one instance, unless we go with EVERY instance of God making the animals,
More like God speaking and nature obeying.muichimotsu said:Here, it might as well be that Family Guy joke with Jeannie from I Dream Of Jeannie just doing her nod and the animals just popping into existence (along with other things, because parody)
And it can't be both at once, of course.No.
That's like saying a tornado formed by the same process that another formed when God ordered it to form.
One is a natural process, the other is a divine process.
If conditions aren't right for a tornado, no, it wouldn't be both at once.And it can't be both at once, of course.
Those are the respective explanations/conclusions/inferences. I'm suggesting starting from the other end and keep the explanations out of it for a moment.One is a natural process, the other is a divine process.
Well, so you agree there is a singular process.Okay.
What gives there then?Actually I'm looking for "zero" ...
Good point.Don't forget the plants, the fish, the birds, the bees, and everything else.
Each "kind" would have its own instance of abiogenesis -- or not.
Depends on how you look at it.More like God speaking and nature obeying.
How many acts of abiogenesis were performed in Genesis 1?
Define 'abiogenesis' and 'acts'.
I'll pass.
Infinity maybe, purple possibly, but Tuesday is definitely wrong...If you won't/can't provide definitions for these terms, then any answer at all will be satisfactory. So I can answer "Infinity" or "Tuesday" or "Purple," and they all give the same amount of information.
Especially if they're playing Fizzbin!Infinity maybe, purple possibly, but Tuesday is definitely wrong...
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