It was very relevant. It was your post to me asking me about things pertaining to GOD. You were referring to GOD and attributing to HIM
falsehoods
Things only someone who does not know GOD will do
Preceded men!?All you have managed to cite are verses that indicate angels preceded men.
Then youPaul of Eugene OR said:You have not proved they were created "ex nihilo".
Either that, or it's an educated guess.Paul of Eugene OR said:You have merely assumed that to be the case.
Show me "heavens" (plural) in Genesis 1:1.Paul of Eugene OR said:Logically it is possible they came from parts of the "heavens" (aka the universe) that preceded our earth in a natural way.
When you can build a machine that can do this:Paul of Eugene OR said:Or, perhaps not . . . . we need evidence before saying so definately.
I didn't force you to respond the way you didAnd in a scientific discussion, such assertions without support mean nothing.
In your opinion, which is irrelevant to the topic at hand.I didn't force you to respond the way you did
You were discussing GOD
Just not The TRUE THINGS of GOD
It was very relevant. It was your post to me asking me about things pertaining to GOD. You were referring to GOD and attributing to HIM
falsehoods
Things only someone who does not know GOD will do
I do
I have many problems about it
I didNothing false about any of the things I've said -- substantiate you claim or retract it.
So there was just a layer of water? Or was it a ball? How deep and wide was it? Did it stretch across the entire universe?You do know the earth before it was the earth was just dark disorganized formless...water....and THE SPIRIT of GOD hovered over the deep
You cannot have "above" and "below" without there being something to reference for position. So, by definition, the water must have formed a division. Also, how is it possible that God "hovered over the deep" if there was no reference? Which way is "up" when something is formless?There was no dividing line that distinguished the heavens above from the heavens below until GOD drew the dividing line
It started out as sea water in the palm of God's hand.So there was just a layer of water? Or was it a ball? How deep and wide was it? Did it stretch across the entire universe?
So God hovered over his own hand? How does that work?It started out as sea water in the palm of God's hand.
Where'd the gravitational pull come from? Let me guess - there was no gravity to start with, so he invented it? That raises so many questions around how there could be a layer of water in the first place (do you know what water does in zero gravity?), how God could hover etc etc etc. But you can just hand wave those problems away, can't you?Gravity then made it into an orb, and rotation into an oblate spheroid.
I love how Christians can make up any additional information they like to support their favourite story but they still claim they don't add anything to the Bible.I like to call that oblate spheroid of sea water: terra aqua.
Genesis 1:2b And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.So God hovered over his own hand?
n/aBungle_Bear said:How does that work?
God simp...Bungle_Bear said:Where'd the gravitational pull come from?
Created it would be more accurate.Bungle_Bear said:Let me guess - there was no gravity to start with, so he invented it?
You should see how many questions the Flood story generates in educated unbelievers!Bungle_Bear said:That raises so many questions around how there could be a layer of water, how God could hover etc etc etc.
Nor can you change words like "moved" to "hover," or use words like "invent" over "created" and expect a KJVO not to understand how perplexed you're only making yourselves.Bungle_Bear said:But you can just hand wave those problems away, can't you?
Sad, isn't it?Bungle_Bear said:I love how Christians can make up any additional information they like to support their favourite story but they still claim they don't add anything to the Bible.
OK, so he moved on his own hand? How does that work? And before you whinge, see below for explanation of how it was not me who said hoveredGenesis 1:2b And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
The creationist "handwave and move on" tactic. Just as predictedCreated it would be more accurate.You should see how many questions the Flood story generates in educated unbelievers!
I was quoting your biggest fan, miknik5. You might not want to alienate her with these harsh wordsIt's enough to blow your mind!Nor can you change words like "moved" to "hover," or use words like "invent" over "created" and expect a KJVO not to understand how perplexed you're only making yourselves.
Poor miknik.Those Arab phone tactics only cause you guys to get more confused.Sad, isn't it?
It's too bad we have to stoop to that; but when facing the intellegista ... well ... you have to give them something or they might ridicule you.
But you still haven't learnt to read threads properly to find out who is saying what before you sling mud.In the 11 years I've been here, I've seen both sides of the coin:
Obverse: give them only Bible quotes and they say something to the effect of, "Can't you speak for yourself?"
Reverse: give them your opinion and they say something to the effect of, "Chapter and verse, please?"
As my mom used to say, "You can't win for losing."
Weird, isn't it?OK, so he moved on his own hand? How does that work?
For some dumb reason, I feel like I'm Genghis Khan.Bungle_Bear said:And before you whinge, see below for explanation of how it was not me who said hovered.
Handwaving an Arab phone can be more constructive than anything else.Bungle_Bear said:The creationist "handwave and move on" tactic. Just as predicted.
Oh, I won't.Bungle_Bear said:I was quoting your biggest fan, miknik5. You might not want to alienate her with these harsh words.
I have a feeling 'poor miknik' is richer than you think.Bungle_Bear said:Poor miknik.
LOLBungle_Bear said:But you still haven't learnt to read threads properly to find out who is saying what before you sling mud.
Does the theory of evolution include how life got started?
If not, does the theory of evolution treat abiogenesis like it treats God?
Examples:
Please note that I'm simply asking if abiogenesis is treated as "respectfully" as God is.
- Abiogenesis has nothing to do with evolution.
- Take your discussion about abiogenesis elsewhere.
- Leave abiogenesis at the front door.
- Show me evidence of abiogenesis.
- Abiogenesis can be taught after school, but not during.
- Nonbelievers in abiogenesis know more about abiogenesis than believers do.
- What's the Hebrew word for "organic"?
- What's the Greek word for "organic"?
- Books on abiogenesis were written decades after abiogenesis got started.
- I don't believe in abiogenesis, so there's nothing to discuss.
It's a simple YES or NO challenge.
This is exactly what I believe.If scientists ever succeed in explaining the origin of life, the theory of abiogenesis will probably become unified with the theory of evolution, just as the theories of electricity and magnetism were unified into the theory of electromagnetism.
Nope ... didn't find anything.And speaking of research, I'll just check and see if you ever used that term before miknik ever showed up here.
For some dumb reason, I feel like I'm Genghis Khan.
Flattery, my dear man, will get you nowhere.No, you are just an amiable eccentric.
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