Muted Salt

[rocknanchor]

Not to be mean-spirited, but understanding what it is the world sees of us. Sometimes I wonder if we do portray Christ effectively, or has the world just become more dim?.

“That you may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom you shine as lights in the world” (Philippians 2:15)​

Today’s conclusion for our world doesn’t quite leave me with the above expression. We have been "deemed irrelevant” by liberal intelligentsia, or those handlers of “higher thinking”. They just refuse to permit such a belief to rule their thinking, it’s much easier to understand us "renewalist" as handlers of the “irrational”.

By what I can tell, these handlers want us pushed completely aside; we have no voice and seat of bargaining at all because of it.

"So then let no one boast in men. For all things belong to you, whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or things present or things to come; all things belong to you, and you belong to Christ; and Christ belongs to God." (1 Corinthians 3:21-23)​

I am tempted to amalgamate the two,

“So then let no one boast in men, , be blameless and harmless, , without rebuke, , whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world, , whom you shine as lights, , all things belong to you.”​

If it is faith that leads our way to performing pleasing fruit to the Father, I don’t think it’s wise to sink one way or the other and turn this into a negative conundrum while working in God’s gift.

• Don’t violate harmlessness till we are slightly more than feeble,
• Don’t violate our domain till gentleness and mercy is nowhere to be found.

Can we be the “lights” the world sees spoken of taking either of these past acceptable measures?

 

[pdudgeon]

Not to be mean-spirited, but understanding what it is the world sees of us. Sometimes I wonder if we do portray Christ effectively, or has the world just become more dim?.

“That you may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom you shine as lights in the world” (Philippians 2:15)​

Today’s conclusion for our world doesn’t quite leave me with the above expression. We have been "deemed irrelevant” by liberal intelligentsia, or those handlers of “higher thinking”. They just refuse to permit such a belief to rule their thinking, it’s much easier to understand us "renewalist" as handlers of the “irrational”.

By what I can tell, these handlers want us pushed completely aside; we have no voice and seat of bargaining at all because of it.

"So then let no one boast in men. For all things belong to you, whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or things present or things to come; all things belong to you, and you belong to Christ; and Christ belongs to God." (1 Corinthians 3:21-23)​

I am tempted to amalgamate the two,

“So then let no one boast in men, , be blameless and harmless, , without rebuke, , whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world, , whom you shine as lights, , all things belong to you.”​

If it is faith that leads our way to performing pleasing fruit to the Father, I don’t think it’s wise to sink one way or the other and turn this into a negative conundrum while working in God’s gift.

• Don’t violate harmlessness till we are slightly more than feeble,
• Don’t violate our domain till gentleness and mercy is nowhere to be found.

Can we be the “lights” the world sees spoken of taking either of these past acceptable measures?

wise words. as you have said the impulse is to return what was done to us, but i've learned that is not the way.

even as Christ said nothing while enduring His scourging, we must do also.

 

[RC1970]

"...he (the Holy Spirit) will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged." ~ John 16:8-11

“The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law." ~ Deuteronomy 29:29

 

[CrystalDragon]

Not to be mean-spirited, but understanding what it is the world sees of us. Sometimes I wonder if we do portray Christ effectively, or has the world just become more dim?.

“That you may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom you shine as lights in the world” (Philippians 2:15)​

Today’s conclusion for our world doesn’t quite leave me with the above expression. We have been "deemed irrelevant” by liberal intelligentsia, or those handlers of “higher thinking”. They just refuse to permit such a belief to rule their thinking, it’s much easier to understand us "renewalist" as handlers of the “irrational”.

By what I can tell, these handlers want us pushed completely aside; we have no voice and seat of bargaining at all because of it.

"So then let no one boast in men. For all things belong to you, whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or things present or things to come; all things belong to you, and you belong to Christ; and Christ belongs to God." (1 Corinthians 3:21-23)​

I am tempted to amalgamate the two,

“So then let no one boast in men, , be blameless and harmless, , without rebuke, , whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world, , whom you shine as lights, , all things belong to you.”​

If it is faith that leads our way to performing pleasing fruit to the Father, I don’t think it’s wise to sink one way or the other and turn this into a negative conundrum while working in God’s gift.

• Don’t violate harmlessness till we are slightly more than feeble,
• Don’t violate our domain till gentleness and mercy is nowhere to be found.

Can we be the “lights” the world sees spoken of taking either of these past acceptable measures?

Here's how I see it: The world has not necessarily "become more dim" (it can be argued that in some respects, but hey), but there are a number of factors.

1. Many Christians are not portraying the love of Jesus effectively, especially saying to former Christians "Oh, you never really were a Christian. It's insulting, devastating, and drives people away.
2. Same with hell, when one really thinks about it.
3. Some select Christians can be harsh in putting there beliefs on others—now granted this can and does apply to groups of other religions, or atheists, or agnostics, or people who just don't care. Every group can have moments like that once in a while. I just see it a lot with Christ because this is a Christian forum, and Christianity is the dominant religion.
4. With the Internet, people are able to see the past and present history of the Church and the Bible, and how certain ideas were born.

 

[quietbloke]

Help us shine for Jesus. Amen

 

[quietbloke]

We are to be the salt of the earth to be savoured

 

[rocknanchor]

We are to be the salt of the earth to be savoured

Sir, here here! I have come to understand just how rare a comment this is.

 

[quietbloke]

We are not to be dumb or mute in our life and witness of the Gospel to mankind. We are to be open hearted and open handed to all around us. Salt is not to be hidden but savored and then it will preserve and enhance our testimony.

 

[tturt]

It's reported in Leonardo di Vinci's Last Supper, there's a fallen salt shaker in front of a disciple so that would be Judas.

 

[quietbloke]

Our lives are to speak as well as our words!

 

[Petros2015]

By what I can tell, these handlers want us pushed completely aside; we have no voice and seat of bargaining at all because of it.

What is it that you would bargain for that you don't already have?

 

[rocknanchor]

What is it that you would bargain for that you don't already have?

To hold their feet to the fires of lawful and common sense dialog, and that is my friend the nut of the problem, many laws that are in place are being trampled. Could be the globalist coup, could be socialist annexation, or what some feel are the mutual cooperation between various carnal we have today, wanting to pull down wealth and inalienable rights to make all able-bodied exceptionalism those helpless wards of the state.

As that next line reads,

"So then let no one boast in men.”
(1 Corinthians 3:21)

If such resistance to contemporary unrighteousness is boasting, then the complaint only comes from unrighteous pacifism unwilling to stave distress of the widow and weak.

Lawlessness is rampant, the righteous pays the price for treason and crumbling sovereignty.

"You see the trouble we are in, , Come, let us rebuild, ,
(Nehemiah 2:17)