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Mt 18:22 - Lying Ministers?

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Matthew 18:22-35 said:
Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made. The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, 'Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.' Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt. But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, 'Pay me what you owe!' So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, 'Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.' And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt. So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done. Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. 'Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?' And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him. So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses."

How many here have ministers who deny this passage teaches that God will take back his forgiveness of Christians who don't forgive others? If you don't know, FIND OUT! Ask your pastor about it and see what he says, and post it.
 
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If you want to post scripture, that is great. But you are coming across a little too harsh. God will deal with whomever he sees fit, and we have no business in trying to condemn others because they are sinners like we are.
 
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Actually, I agree... we cannot understand or know what forgiveness is when we are not forgiving of others. And I think what Jesus said about forgiveness is much more important than what others in the Church say about it. My conviction is that if one truly accepts God's forgiveness for themselves and forgives/accepts/loves themselves then the natural outcome is an authentic forgiveness for others. I'm not saying we don't struggle with it, I'm not saying true Christians are always perfect about forgiving, but I do agree that, even as Christians, we cannot be forgiven and forgive ourselves until we forgive others. As an evangelical Jesus-Seminar groupie, I agree that we should take this original saying of the historical Jesus to heart and realise its upmost importance for our lives and the world around us.

Thank you.
 
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