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Hello everyone, I've just got back from my trip to Winnipeg, and I a lot going on right now, but for the moment, I just have one prayer request. The apartment near my more reverent parish is finally mine, but in 10-days-time, I will be traveling yet, again, so I only have those ten days to make the move. On top of that, there might be other, unforeseen difficulties that I may have to deal with, my parents have been very resistant to this, so can you please offer-up your prayers that I may be able to make the move, in the coming ten days?
 

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Hello everyone, I've just got back from my trip to Winnipeg, and I a lot going on right now, but for the moment, I just have one prayer request. The apartment near my more reverent parish is finally mine, but in 10-days-time, I will be traveling yet, again, so I only have those ten days to make the move. On top of that, there might be other, unforeseen difficulties that I may have to deal with, my parents have been very resistant to this, so can you please offer-up your prayers that I may be able to make the move, in the coming ten days?

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Hello everyone, I've just got back from my trip to Winnipeg, and I a lot going on right now, but for the moment, I just have one prayer request. The apartment near my more reverent parish is finally mine, but in 10-days-time, I will be traveling yet, again, so I only have those ten days to make the move. On top of that, there might be other, unforeseen difficulties that I may have to deal with, my parents have been very resistant to this, so can you please offer-up your prayers that I may be able to make the move, in the coming ten days?

What's making your current parish as bad as it is?
 
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What's making your current parish as bad as it is?
There's quite a bit, but I don't have the time or strength to go into it. For now, I'll just show you a few examples of what I mean:

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Well, one particularly offensive example of modernism I can give, is something that was said at my RCIA class. During the last session of my RCIA class we were shown a video which basically stated, that Our Lord dying on the cross, wasn't a sacrifice for our sins, but rather an attack on the idea of sacrifice, and that believing that the Crucifixion was a sacrifice, was basically paganism!

There is also the overall, irreverent and un-meditative atmosphere of my parish, but I don't have the mental energy to emphasize it right now.
 
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There's quite a bit, but I don't have the time or strength to go into it. For now, I'll just show you a few examples of what I mean:

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There is also the overall, irreverent and un-meditative atmosphere of my parish, but I don't have the mental energy to emphasize it right now.

I remember this.
But how does it affect you, I mean don't you go to mass, receive communion and confession like I do?

I mean once you're done with RCIA the teachers errors and heresy is something to be considered more or less of pherferi or "adiaphora" (to quote Luther)?

I don't get the kind of mind numbing energy you're putting into this. You've told the priest and I'm sure the bishop then your conscience should be clean about this.

Refocus instead, refocus on your own piety rather than that of others and seek help from a priest. You suffer alot from scruples it seems which is very tiresome I've come to understand.
 
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I remember this.
But how does it affect you, I mean don't you go to mass, receive communion and confession like I do?

I mean once you're done with RCIA the teachers errors and heresy is something to be considered more or less of pherferi or "adiaphora" (to quote Luther)?

I don't get the kind of mind numbing energy you're putting into this. You've told the priest and I'm sure the bishop then your conscience should be clean about this.

Refocus instead, refocus on your own piety rather than that of others and seek help from a priest. You suffer alot from scruples it seems which is very tiresome I've come to understand.
Well these people dominate the parish, and as I mentioned before, they've made the mass as irreverent as possible. I can barely focus at mass there. The parish I'm moving to is much better, much more reverent, and both my previous priest and my current priest make gestures that point back to the Tridentine mass.
 
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Well these people dominate the parish, and as I mentioned before, they've made the mass as irreverent as possible. I can barely focus at mass there. The parish I'm moving to is much better, much more reverent, and both my previous priest and my current priest make gestures that point back to the Tridentine mass.

Offer it up is my advice.
How much more didn't Christ suffer for our sake at the Calvary?

Besides parishes aren't static, they change. All of the sudden you're left with a totally new priest for better or worse and he may turn the liberalism of your parish upside down in few weeks.

If you ran of now how can you be sure that the demons won't follow you along the way?

You got to ask yourself, will there ever be a parish that suits your highly selective and perhaps even self righteous needs and demands in terms of piety and radical traditionalism?

Any church and any congregation will have weed alongside the flowers that is its theological foundation.
Today's flaws will be gone tomorrow only to be succeeded by new and other ones and this will be the time of events until Christ's 2nd coming.

You can't outrun humanity nor yourself. We must never forget the factor of the sin and fallibility within our very nature.
How can we ever be sure that we've got everything right?
Don't we need and gain alot from being humble enough to be self-critical at times?

The Catholic faith has doctrine and dogmas, but have I understood them correctly, as they were indeed intended?
I can never say yes without having doubt cause I can't go past the human fallible and sinful point of view that is indeed the rule I'm living under in this world.

(To do so would be to put God into my neat little box, forcing him to conform into my desires and obey my pride and unsustained claims of authority.
By engaging in this kind of thinking the "I got it all figured out approach on theology and God himself" I'm in fact committing the gravest of all sins, that of placing oneself above God. The original sin.)

This is the reason we as individuals don't interpret scripture but the church does through the holy spirit.
We can make mistakes cause our eyes are sick, the church cannot.

Beware your sick eye and pray for others who's seemingly far away as in undermining Christ and the gospels instead of judging them cause we know how Christ feels about judging one another.

Please see through your pride and think though what I wrote here and decide for yourself if I'm onto something or not.
Your life in Christ, how is its fruit currently?
Is this OCD helping others to Christ which is our goal (hence the great commission)?

Do you thrive in the Lord ?
Are you salt and light in the world?
 
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Offer it up is my advice.
How much more didn't Christ suffer for our sake at the Calvary?

Besides parishes aren't static, they change. All of the sudden you're left with a totally new priest for better or worse and he may turn the liberalism of your parish upside down in few weeks.

If you ran of now how can you be sure that the demons won't follow you along the way?

You got to ask yourself, will there ever be a parish that suits your highly selective and perhaps even self righteous needs and demands in terms of piety and radical traditionalism?

Any church and any congregation will have weed alongside the flowers that is its theological foundation.
Today's flaws will be gone tomorrow only to be succeeded by new and other ones and this will be the time of events until Christ's 2nd coming.

You can't outrun humanity nor yourself. We must never forget the factor of the sin and fallibility within our very nature.
How can we ever be sure that we've got everything right?
Don't we need and gain alot from being humble enough to be self-critical at times?

The Catholic faith has doctrine and dogmas, but have I understood them correctly, as they were indeed intended?
I can never say yes without having doubt cause I can't go past the human fallible and sinful point of view that is indeed the rule I'm living under in this world.

(To do so would be to put God into my neat little box, forcing him to conform into my desires and obey my pride and unsustained claims of authority.
By engaging in this kind of thinking the "I got it all figured out approach on theology and God himself" I'm in fact committing the gravest of all sins, that of placing oneself above God. The original sin.)

This is the reason we as individuals don't interpret scripture but the church does through the holy spirit.
We can make mistakes cause our eyes are sick, the church cannot.

Beware your sick eye and pray for others who's seemingly far away as in undermining Christ and the gospels instead of judging them cause we know how Christ feels about judging one another.

Please see through your pride and think though what I wrote here and decide for yourself if I'm onto something or not.
Your life in Christ, how is its fruit currently?
Is this OCD helping others to Christ which is our goal (hence the great commission)?

Do you thrive in the Lord ?
Are you salt and light in the world?
I don't have the mental strength to find God, in the masses offered at my current parish, I will return -if things don't improve at my parish, once I have the strength to fight- the irreverence and heresy happening at that parish. By the way, some of the aspects of the mass, were designed specifically to help us with the things you've mentioned.
 
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Are you friends or acquaintances with anyone there where you have noticed a difference in the way they interact with you?
No I haven't noticed any changes that much, albeit I don't have many friends there, and I don't see them that often.
 
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I can see how you feel unsure if you are being heard or not. I think you are feeling like you are in the minority and feeling this is not what you signed up for. Maybe you should of said something to the priest in RCIA. I don't know... were you offered Mystagogia?
No I haven't noticed any changes that much, albeit I don't have many friends there, and I don't see them that often.
 
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I can see how you feel unsure if you are being heard or not. I think you are feeling like you are in the minority and feeling this is not what you signed up for. Maybe you should of said something to the priest in RCIA. I don't know... were you offered Mystagogia?
I was offered a bit of it, but not much.
 
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