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I really like your radio commercial, TAC...I could just envision it in my head as I heard it driving down the road in my car.

Thanks for the reply, Ringu. I'm really starting to get a visual of how the plot of that movie would look. I relaly do like the concept of the church starting in modern day, especially because that seems to be what the church needs to do anyways. You know, get back to basics, return to its first love, all those grand things that God talked to the churches about in Revelation. The more I learn about how you're seeing this plot, the more I like it. Still, I'm one of those people who watch a movie and ask, "How did he/she get there?" and "What about this or that?" to which everyone tells me that its just a movie and they can do that. *sigh* Both a good thing and a bad thing. It leaves something for the imagination to ponder over though, which is nice.

I still think there would be some sort of light underlying message in the WWII movie anyway, but I wasn't sure if you wanted to take it further than it was naturally going to go. It's a good plot...I want to see it now!!!
 
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What you folks are talking about is interesting. I started writing a story that I want to eventually turn into a movie. Its a VERY dark story about a guy that can't fit in socially. He's had a bad life and he is frustrated at every turn. My daughter wants me to finish the story with a girl character in it so the screen play can be made and she would star in the roll. The story is too graphic and evil for that. I hate to disappoint her.

It is entitled: The Catacombist

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TimPrice said:
Its a VERY dark story (...)

Tim, imagine it´s Friday evening. You´re at the local multiplex...you want to catch a movie but don´t know what. " Something good that starts soon " you hope. You stand outside looking at the lobby posters. Suddenly you spot your movie´s poster. What does it look like ?
 
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Hey, welcome to the thread.
So what's the idea of the movie?
Let me think about it.
So the guy lives in a small town, and he's a kind of an "not of this world" guy, a nomad, socially incapable. No one loves him. Except one girl that falls in love with the guy, and it somewhat changes his world for a little while, and he sees some light in this relationship. Meanwhile, the girl disappears and is believed to be dead. The guy falls into a deep depression. His life is filled with darkness again. By that time he works as a mailman and delivers mail in his small town.
So one day people don't get any mail. No one paid attention that the mail man is gone. People got worried and upset when there wasn't any mail on the second day as well. On the third day every family gets a letter with a short message: "In 6 days one of you will die".
And gosh, half of the people thought it was a sick prank and disregarded it, half of the people got scared. Nevertheless, the next day another mailman started delivering mail again. Town officials told people that the letters they got in the mail were just an evil joke and told them not to worry about it.
After 5 days people go to bed worried and many can't sleep.
And when the night was dark, every household heard a knock at their door.
All of a sudden everything became quiet.
The next morning every family had someone... not dead. Gone.
Of course there was an investigation, but no one could figure out anything and ran out of leads to find out about what happened.
So a few years came, long anough for people to forget the terror of that night. It was 6 years. So in 6 years people who were gone (obducted?) began coming back to their homes. Every single person who disappeared that night was back. But they didn't want to talk much about what happened... and it looked like a massive amnesia. And something else has changed in these people. They became colder, and their skin had a barely seen gray tint.
<<<I will skip some here>>>
Anyway, our second main character (a girl who was new in the town) started having strange night visions. And one night she was running away from someone, and got lost in a deep dark forest. There she found little black streams that ran through the forest and by following one of them she came to a lake. The lake was also black, like raw oil. And she was shocked by what she saw. She saw people walking in and out of the lake. They almost looked like real living people. Did she realize it was just a dream?.. She followed them. And walked into the lake. It was round and pretty small yet apparently was quite deep. She walked in and as she was walking in, she slipped and fell into it. Next thing she realizes is that she is near the bottom of the lake. And there, in a dim gray light, she sees a room with a table and a chair. And on the chair she sees a mailman. People walk in and out and take and deliver letters. The girl didn't dare to come closer and look at the mailman or the letters. She woke up suddenly, in sweat. She turned on bed light and wiped off sweat from her forehead. And oh no, it was black, like the water in the lake. She freaked out at first. She looked at her pillow and it had a black image of her face on it.
Well, after sunrise all that was black has disappeared. She was all clean again. But she was haunted by the images she saw. And who was that mailman? She had no idea.
<<<skipping some here>>>
gosh I really got to go to bed. sorry.
 
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Ringu, your ideas are too great!! Why did you have to leave us hanging like that?!?!

Well, I was at first thinking about just a relatively generic skater movie poster, with the main characters standing in some sort of line near the bottom of the poster, with either some other characters or extreme sports shots or a background taking up the top part of the poster. The title would probably be on the top there, with the clever one-liner (that I have yet to think up) right underneath it.

But then I think, "Do I want to go with the generic movie poster?" You know, those posters that eventually become the DVD box cover. *shrug* I guess I'm not entirely sure yet.

I was also thinking of a poster/cardboard cut-out that would be divided horizontally into five or six sections:

____________________________

A team of five friends.
____________________________

One skates.
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One blades.
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They're all extremists.
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They're all girls.
____________________________


Then the title and info at the very bottom or whatever. It was just something that I was doodling around with in a notebook. That's a very rough idea of what I was thinking. I'm guessing that as I get more aquainted with the actors' personalities in the characters, I'll get something more definitive. For me, the DVD box cover might be more difficult, because I see that as what's going to make the person pick it out of all their other DVDs, so it's got to kind of shine, or pop out at them whenever they see it.
 
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By the way, Tim, I love your movie idea!!! It's sounds amazingly intriguing, whether or not you were thinking along the same lines as Ringu...I just really like it.

Were you going to put it out as a novel first, or put it directly to screen?
 
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Firerock,
Thanks for the encouraging words. I am out of pocket most of the time working... But I get on at night and review things.

I think I would rather do a novel first and then go for a movie. It is doubtful that I could get a good shot at a movie, being an unknown...


Ascetic Crusader,
It would be great to see my idea in the lights. But it will be a long time before I could get that far.

My story and character give an expose' of this culture we live in. The things we see today were unheard of 50 years ago. Sure there was always intrigue and murder. But I would have to say that today is muc more violent and tolerant of violence than 1950's America.

I would like to tell the story in retrospect. The climax is at the beginning and the rest of the story goes up and down with the twists and turns of the main characters life. The story would be a piecing together of the criminals life, because he beat the system. People he knew, victim from beyond the grave speak of his quiet viciousness and the evil that lay just underneath a withdrawn exterior. The victims were forced to write and the diaries were kept and then discovered in the crime scene investigation.

This could be a really great story.

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I don't have a specific approach to making stories. But here's my idea how to do it.
As I said, I want to create a story (drama + action) about a French pilot fighting for his life behind enemy lines in early 1940.
I see a story as a mix of the following:
1) people (characters + character development)
includes main character and villain (personal or impersonal)
2) context
3) events
4) drama (same as events, but specifically dramatic events)
5) time and location

Then all these 5 parts have ties (or chains) that connect them altogether into a story.

So when I am thinking about my story, I am thinking about:
1) people
main character is a French pilot
his friends and commanders
his woman (women)
people the main character meets along the way
villain: elements of nature, his "self" (his weakness), germans as a whole, certain german pilots and soldiers in particular.

2) context
general historic context:
France is in war with Germany (May 1940). Parts of France are evacuating. French airfoce is melting like a candle in a church. They don't have enough people and equipment to fight. And the big dilemma for French generals and politicians is either to keep fighting or to give up.
immediate context:
Our main character is based on a small airfield in the South France. His wing flies over enemy territory to take photographs of the german troops. They move from one airfield to another giving up territory to the enemy. One day the main character enters into a dogfight with enemy planes on the way to his base and is shot down, and lands behind enemy lines. His goal is to get back to the French territory.

3) events

4) drama (same as events, but specifically dramatic events)
There are two dramas in this story. The drama of a country that is being defeated and is struggling to find a purpose in this defeat. And the purpose of the defeat is future victory. The drama here is not just giving up land and lives. The drama here is people not understanding why. Not understanding the reason for this war that makes them leave their homes... their lives behind. The drama is the politicians and military generals being cought up in politics and strategy and not remembering about people behind it.
Second drama is the drama of one man who struggles for his life and dignity. I was thinking, it might be loosing a lot of what he had, including his health, his passion, his love (his woman), seeing terrors of war and maybe even his life.

5) time and location
France and Germany, May 1940. Parts of the action goes back into the early 30th to South America, where we see a struggle to survive of a friend of our main character, who was lost in Andes in Winter and survived 7 days there (tagline is that no animal went through what he went through)... because animals did not have a higher purpose, nothing more to fight for then just their existence.

Anyway, these are briefly the building blocks. I need to develop characters and events, including dramatic events. And these will become the building blocks of the story. Then I will shuffle them and put them together into a plot, which will be a skeleton for descriptions and dialogues. And then it will be laid out on a timeline, which can be used as a base for a script.

Or should I take another approach to the whole thing? Please comment something. How do people do this, usually?
 
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I think that's an excellent approach, Ringu. You get all your basics covered, like an outline or skeleton, like you said, and then you can just begin to fill in the gaps with backstories and dialogue and visual descriptions. I think it's definitely a good way to put a movie together, especially with the movie idea that you're doing. There's a lot to it and it would ruin the story as a whole to leave anything important out, even if it ends up on the cutting room floor in the end.

The more you explain and organize the story, the better idea I get of what you're trying to say and the more I like it. Keep up the awesomely creative work.
 
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