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Arbitrary: based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.
The parameters (skin colour etc.) are chosen by whim, not reason. Therefore they are arbitrary. By the popular definition, race is not real.
You are quite brave to bring dog breeding into the discussion; dog breeding being an extreme example of eugenics.To me that sounds similar to saying that Pit Bulls and Chihuahuas are not real but are merely arbitrary constructs. I mean, they are obviously all dogs! So doggishness isn't the issue.
The distinctions are clear to see (height etc).That is nonsense.
The distinctions are clear to see (skin colour etc). Belief that any races are superior is a construct, but the existence of the races themselves is a matter of fact.
You are quite brave to bring dog breeding into the discussion; dog breeding being an extreme example of eugenics.
But I'll play along:
Even in the extremely artificial world of dog breeding, their race remains true. In most cases, a pit bull terrier and a chihuahua will produce viable and sterile offspring. All dogs - despite their arbitrary physical differences - are members of the species canis lupus familiaris. All dogs are of the same race, which even goes as far as to included wolves.
Race is a social construct.
The distinctions are clear to see (height etc).
The distinctions are clear to see (eye colour etc).
The distinctions are clear to see (hair colour etc).
The distinctions are clear to see (nose length etc).
The distinctions are clear to see (face shape etc).
One can choose any parameter one wants, and make it a proxy for the myth of "race". But race continues to be a fiction.
Yep, despite the fact that humans have fracked with the canine genome, in a surprising number of cases, the canine's genes win.Indeed?
Not confusing, just compartmentalising. In the context of the OP, and the subsequent posts (especially the deleted ones), there is no place for the word "race". It has no place or relevance.I think that you are confusing the uneducated opinions of the common ignorant people who are inconsistent in their classification of individuals into racial categories.
Every single one of us has a different everything. This is true but arbitrary.Is skin colour a fiction? Is skull shape a fiction?
Every single one of us has a different everything. This is true but arbitrary.
Race is a social construct.
and that makes them viable AND sterile at the same time, does it?Yep, despite the fact that humans have fracked with the canine genome, in a surprising number of cases, the canine's genes win.
and that makes them viable AND sterile at the same time, does it?
Not confusing, just compartmentalising. In the context of the OP, and the subsequent posts (especially the deleted ones), there is no place for the word "race". It has no place or relevance.
Now if you want to use the word "race" in a forensic sense, in the same way that we would use a person's blood group or hair folicle type, then that's OK. But to use that argument to say that it's ok to use the word "race" in regular speech, in situations where we wouldn't just as freely use the phrase "blood group", then you are being disingenuous.
Simple Definition of disingenuous
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disingenuous
- : not truly honest or sincere : giving the false appearance of being honest or sincere
First of all, you get 100 points from me for not taking advantage of my awful faux-pas. In light of which I retract my disingenuous accusation.So if there are two dogs and I am required to describe the dogs it is disingenuous for me to say Great Dane and Chihuahua? How would I get around being disingenuous in that situation?
Another source gave the meaning as: "guileful" or "deceitful."
Please explain how I am being any of those two by describing those dogs as such.
Actually that would be true if I did not. Then I would be being deceitful and using guile for perhaps some ulterior motive.
First of all, you get 100 points from me for not taking advantage of my awful faux-pas. In light of which I retract my disingenuous accusation.
So, getting back to the subject at hand. It's OK to describe a Great Dane as a Great Dane, or a Chihuahua as a Chihuahua. Or - if you need to describe me - a scruffy, white skinned, blond haired, bearded man with a confused look on his face. But being able to describe a dog or a person has nothing to do with whether or not race is a thing.
if you need to describe me - a scruffy, white skinned, blond haired, bearded man with a confused look on his face.
I certainly WOULD NOT offer any evidence that the Bible promotes dehumanization according to race, because that would be completely contrary to the Biblical message.As for the dehumanization of people based on skin color in the Bible. Can you please offer scriptural evidence that such a dehumanization actually was promoted? You see, I have studied the Bible most of my life and I have never come across such a biblically approved policy. True, Moses' sister and Aron complained that Moses took an Ethiopian wife. But in the Bible there is no prohibition on avoiding marriage based on race. The prohibitions are based on the moral customs of the people involved. For example, even though Israel was ancestrally related to Moab via Lot, they wee still told to avoid the Moabites due to their false worship. The same applied to the Edomites who were related to Israel via Jacobs's brother Edom, and to the Ammonites who were also related to Israel via Lot.
Race is reality but racism is the creation of a fictional hierarchy based upon it.
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