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<blockquote data-quote="stevil" data-source="post: 76075157" data-attributes="member: 277368"><p>No way to objectively resolve moral disputes.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't. I've cast that vague belief in the bin.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct. No way to resolve moral disputes.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No I didn't. I just acknowledge that governance over women's wombs does not fall under the purpose of government. So it's not up to society or government to decide whether she should remain pregnant or not.</p><p></p><p></p><p>OK, that is your belief. It is not my belief. I am not concerned for the rights of the unborn.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't care about your personal judgement as to the moral or immoralness of government.</p><p>I am not proposing us having a moral government. It is not a goal I support. I go the opposite. I don't want a government that is concerned about having a moral society. I just want a government that supports safety, stability and a thriving society.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think it is important. But I do recognise it as a scientific fact.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I want a minimal government, not a nanny state. I want govt to remove laws not add them.</p><p>Govt don't need to dictate a woman's reproductive system.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I want to live in a safe, stable and thriving society.</p><p>If my society is not these things I would seriously seek to move to another country.</p><p>Humans are social animals, we need to co-exist with others. But we don't want to get killed or murdered, we don't want to be forever guarding our stuff. We do need a bare minimum of laws over how people behave in our society. That is the purpose of our elective government. Not to force someone's moral beliefs on others.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you are asking why people would kill a baby killer?</p><p>I presume it is because people don't want others in society going around killing their family members.</p><p>They would see me as a threat to their safety.</p><p></p><p></p><p>We can.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope. There is no objective morality. Subjective morality is nonsense. It is easier and clearer to talk in non moral language. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Still doesn't make it objective.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevil, post: 76075157, member: 277368"] No way to objectively resolve moral disputes. I don't. I've cast that vague belief in the bin. Correct. No way to resolve moral disputes. No I didn't. I just acknowledge that governance over women's wombs does not fall under the purpose of government. So it's not up to society or government to decide whether she should remain pregnant or not. OK, that is your belief. It is not my belief. I am not concerned for the rights of the unborn. Correct I don't care about your personal judgement as to the moral or immoralness of government. I am not proposing us having a moral government. It is not a goal I support. I go the opposite. I don't want a government that is concerned about having a moral society. I just want a government that supports safety, stability and a thriving society. I don't think it is important. But I do recognise it as a scientific fact. I want a minimal government, not a nanny state. I want govt to remove laws not add them. Govt don't need to dictate a woman's reproductive system. I want to live in a safe, stable and thriving society. If my society is not these things I would seriously seek to move to another country. Humans are social animals, we need to co-exist with others. But we don't want to get killed or murdered, we don't want to be forever guarding our stuff. We do need a bare minimum of laws over how people behave in our society. That is the purpose of our elective government. Not to force someone's moral beliefs on others. If you are asking why people would kill a baby killer? I presume it is because people don't want others in society going around killing their family members. They would see me as a threat to their safety. We can. Nope. There is no objective morality. Subjective morality is nonsense. It is easier and clearer to talk in non moral language. Still doesn't make it objective. [/QUOTE]
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