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Summa said:[T]he perfect notion of sin, which Augustine gives ["Sin is a word, deed or desire contrary to the eternal law." ~ 'Contra Faustum', Bk. 22, Ch. 27], applies to mortal sin. On the other hand, venial sin is called a sin, in reference to an imperfect notion of sin, and in relation to mortal sin: even as an accident is called a being, in relation to substance, in reference to the imperfect notion of being. For it is not "against" the law, since he who sins venially neither does what the law forbids, nor omits what the law prescribes to be done; but he acts "beside" the law, through not observing the mode of reason, which the law intends.
mortal sin is a sin that cuts you off from Gods saving grace
a mortal sin is of a serious nature, is done with freedom, and is done with the information that it is a sin
Matthew 12:31
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
I would venture to say a Mortal sin could be any sin that is not repented and we have turned away from God.
for example I would find it hard for someone who murdered a child to still have Faith in Christ but would refuse to repent that sin.
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The confusion here to me is "the law of sin and death." How can any sin be anything other than 'mortal?'
What are they?
Can you quote any verse that substantiates the above? "Killing grace" sounds like a good rebuttal, but it doesn't sound biblical to me. What is your definition of grace BTW?By mortal is meant that it kills the grace in the soul that brings a person to heaven. In a sense, you are right that the wages of sin is death, so all sin in a certain sense is deadly---just like 1 or 2 stab wounds are deadly but won't necessarily "kill," especially if you treat the wounds in time. From an eternal standpoint, not all sin will deserve hell. As John says, "There is sin that is not deadly" (1 Jn 5:17).
That's not what this scripture says. It says "SIN BRINGS FORTH" DEATH...period. The second half of the verse just tells you that the death isn't birthed immediately, or prematurely.Sins that "kill" in a non-eternal sense are something like:James 1:15 Then desire conceives and brings forth sin, and when sin reaches maturity it gives birth to death.
That's not what this verse is saying. You are putting a value judgment on sin that this verse in James doesn't support IMO.You see how a sin of lesser stature is not said to bring forth death, but a so-called "mature" sin does bring death.
So are you saying that all of those catholic priests who had their way with boys are hell bound with 'mortal' sin? If so, then why didn't the Church turn them over to Satan? Are you sure your theology would line up with the pope's?Paul gives examples of the kinds of sins that prevent one from eternal life:1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Galatians 5:19-21 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God
Personally I think these verses are talking about God's kingdom on temporal earth and not the one in heaven in the hereafter.
I have never thought of it that way, but it certainly makes a lot of sense. I have always been a little confused about "mortal" sins, but using that interpretation seems logical. Is this just how you interpret it or do you have any verses that could point the same way?
I have never thought of it that way, but it certainly makes a lot of sense. I have always been a little confused about "mortal" sins, but using that interpretation seems logical.
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