Mormon Biblical Support For?

[d0c markus]

Is it true that mormonism teaches you can become your own God? And also does mormonism teach that God was originally a man who turned into god? Or am I mixing this up with JW'S?

But anyways whats the biblical support for those assertions?

 

[Serapha]

Is it true that mormonism teaches you can become your own God? And also does mormonism teach that God was originally a man who turned into god? Or am I mixing this up with JW'S?

But anyways whats the biblical support for those assertions?

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Hi there!




NO. The official doctrine of the CoJCoLDS's never makes the statement that God was originally a man.

It's in the Gospel Principles, it's a part of exaltation... but then I was advised that the Gospel Principles contain materials that are not official doctrines of the CoJCoLDS.


Go figure.


~serapha~

 

[d0c markus]

CoJCoLDS.

Whats That?

 

[Miss Shelby]

Whats That?

I believe that stands for Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints.

Michelle

 

[d0c markus]

'


Hi there!




NO. The official doctrine of the CoJCoLDS's never makes the statement that God was originally a man.

It's in the Gospel Principles, it's a part of exaltation... but then I was advised that the Gospel Principles contain materials that are not official doctrines of the CoJCoLDS.


Go figure.


~serapha~

what about that you can become a God?

 

[Serapha]

what about that you can become a God?

Hi there!



Do you want it from the teaching materials, the bom, or the doctrines of the church? They aren't necessarily the "same".


~serapha~

 

[d0c markus]

Hi there!



Do you want it from the teaching materials, the bom, or the doctrines of the church? They aren't necessarily the "same".


~serapha~

yea hook me up.

 

[Breetai]

Check out http://www.christianforum.com/t89104&page=1, especially post #42.

 

[Beoga]

they may not teach those things anymore probably cause they changed it. It is amazing a belief that they say is from God has had to change what they believe so many times.

 

[Didymus]

mormons call themselves LDS. they do belive that you can attain godhood. they also believe that god is one of a family of gods. they have to change their doctrines because God does not reveale everything to their church head-prohet- all at once. eg blacks were banned from the priesthood until the cicil rights movemment became popular. mother of a morman((

 

[d0c markus]

what scriptural backing do they give to these doctrines... so far i am getting conflicting statements, they do and they dont.. im confused lol...

 

[Serapha]

Do you want it from the teaching materials, the bom, or the doctrines of the church? They aren't necessarily the "same".

yea hook me up.

The Gospel Principles, page 305...

"This is the way our Heavenly Father became God"

"Joseph Smith taught: "It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God....He was once a man like us;...God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph smith, pp. 345-46)


yet....


that isn't taught in the doctrine...

the refernces for exaltation are DC 132:3-4, and eternal marriage is the key to exaltation in D&C 131: 1-4.


Exaltation is define in Principle 1, Exaltation Through Christ, Discussion #2 for New Members.

Exaltation is the Greatest Gift of God

We have emphasized that we must strive to become more like our Heavenly Father. We must strive to become worthy of living with him. The privilege of dwelling with our Father is his greatest gift to us. We call this gift exaltation, eternal life, or salvation. It is given to those who are worthy and have prepared themselves for it during this life. To become worthy of exaltation, we must be freed from spiritual death through the atonement of Christ . Exaltation is greater than the gift of immortality.

For a bom reference, 2 Nephi 9:13, Moses 1:39


~serapha~

 

[AMMON]

Is it true that mormonism teaches you can become your own God? And also does mormonism teach that God was originally a man who turned into god? Or am I mixing this up with JW'S?

But anyways whats the biblical support for those assertions?

I believe your question can be answered through the below link, click it, scroll down, and click on "The Origin and Destiny of Mankind."

http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Curriculum/mpandrs.htm/john taylor.htm

This is a lesson manual, published and approved by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Therefore, it is official doctrine.

 

[baker]

Is it true that mormonism teaches you can become your own God? And also does mormonism teach that God was originally a man who turned into god? Or am I mixing this up with JW'S?

But anyways whats the biblical support for those assertions?

Without getting all the spin, the simple answer is:

"Yes, the mormon church and it's founding prophet teach that god was a man first and had to learn to become a god. Everyone in the mormon church can also become a god of their own world just as god is to his followers."

Here is what Joseph Smith said on the subject of god:

"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. ...I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil,...
It is the first principle of the gospel to know for a certainty the character of God, ...and that He was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ Himself did; ...you have got to learn how to be gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all gods have done before you, namely, by going from one small degree to another,... from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in everlasting burnings. and to sit in glory, as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power" (History of the Church, Vol.6, Ch.14, p.305-6).


Their current doctrine today (at least last time I checked - but it does change a lot so you should check again to be sure) says this in thier D&C 132:

" Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them."

Now I suspect you'll get a lot of "spin" to these facts, but it says it pretty clear and straightforward.

The tough question for the lds to answer is this:

"If god was a man first, who's teachings was he following to "become a god" and why don't they pray to that god?" You gotta dig below the surface on their claims to see the real picture.

 

[ByGrace]

Yes they believe you can be a god and as far as there being any Biblical basis for this? None.

 

[Breetai]

what scriptural backing do they give to these doctrines... so far i am getting conflicting statements, they do and they dont.. im confused lol...

Welcome to the club. It's members include both LDS and non-LDS.

 

[Serapha]

Without getting all the spin, the simple answer is:

"Yes, the mormon church and it's founding prophet teach that god was a man first and had to learn to become a god. Everyone in the mormon church can also become a god of their own world just as god is to his followers."

Here is what Joseph Smith said on the subject of god:

"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. ...I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil,...
It is the first principle of the gospel to know for a certainty the character of God, ...and that He was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ Himself did; ...you have got to learn how to be gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all gods have done before you, namely, by going from one small degree to another,... from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in everlasting burnings. and to sit in glory, as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power" (History of the Church, Vol.6, Ch.14, p.305-6).


Their current doctrine today (at least last time I checked - but it does change a lot so you should check again to be sure) says this in thier D&C 132:

" Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them."

Now I suspect you'll get a lot of "spin" to these facts, but it says it pretty clear and straightforward.

The tough question for the lds to answer is this:

"If god was a man first, who's teachings was he following to "become a god" and why don't they pray to that god?" You gotta dig below the surface on their claims to see the real picture.

Hi there!




Just because Joseph Smith "said it" doesn't make it doctrine....



~serapha~

 

[d0c markus]

Without getting all the spin, the simple answer is:

"Yes, the mormon church and it's founding prophet teach that god was a man first and had to learn to become a god. Everyone in the mormon church can also become a god of their own world just as god is to his followers."

Here is what Joseph Smith said on the subject of god:

"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. ...I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil,...
It is the first principle of the gospel to know for a certainty the character of God, ...and that He was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ Himself did; ...you have got to learn how to be gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all gods have done before you, namely, by going from one small degree to another,... from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in everlasting burnings. and to sit in glory, as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power" (History of the Church, Vol.6, Ch.14, p.305-6).


Their current doctrine today (at least last time I checked - but it does change a lot so you should check again to be sure) says this in thier D&C 132:

" Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them."

Now I suspect you'll get a lot of "spin" to these facts, but it says it pretty clear and straightforward.

The tough question for the lds to answer is this:

"If god was a man first, who's teachings was he following to "become a god" and why don't they pray to that god?" You gotta dig below the surface on their claims to see the real picture.

Thank you for that. If i was mormon i would want to downplay it to..

 

[AMMON]

I believe your question can be answered through the below link, click it, scroll down, and click on "The Origin and Destiny of Mankind."

http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Curriculum/mpandrs.htm/john taylor.htm

This is a lesson manual, published and approved by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Therefore, it is official doctrine.

 

[Serapha]

http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Curriculum/mpandrs.htm/john%20taylor.htm/chapter%201%20the%20origin%20and%20destiny%20of%20mankind.htm#JD_35969001

Hi there!



I already have that book... and if you think that every word in that book is "doctrine" for the CoJCoLDS's, then I would ask you to define "doctrine".


~serapha~