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Muhammad himself did commit violent acts and lead an army to conquer and destroy.
As I have said before, I don't have any interpretations of anything in the Quran, I have never read it.You interpret the Quran to mean one thing, while the vast majority of Muslims say you are wrong.
These Christians come up with excuse after excuse when they don't want to follow the teachings of Jesus because it would inconvenience them (like selling all their belongings),
Well if you can explain to me why the Apostles didn't sell all their belonging, house, boats, and give to the poor you might have an argument for your interpretation of a command given to one young man. If you can explain how Peter could tell Ananias that he could have kept his land if he had chosen to, he didn't have to sell it and give the proceeds to the church, then you may have an argument for your interpretation of one single verse.Jesus told Christians to sell all their belongings, and give to the poor.
Not trying to change the subject, I'll rephrase.Good job changing the subject! You said Jesus didn't commit violent act against innocent people. I said Muhammad did not either. Muhammad authorized war against those who persecuted and exiled Muslims. He prohibited the targeting of non-combatants including women children and the elderly.
Now if you just want to say that Muhammad committed violent acts, then so did Jesus.
Not trying to change the subject, I'll rephrase.
Jesus didn't commit violent acts against people. He didn't kill anyone.
Muhammad did. He and his army did.
And your point is?Revelation 19:11-16 - “And I saw the heaven opened; and behold, a white horse, and He that sat thereon called Faithful and True; and in righteousness He doth judge and make war. And His eyes are a flame of fire, and upon His head are many diadems; and He hath a name written which no one knoweth but he himself. And He is arrayed in a garment sprinkled with blood: and His name is called The Word of God. And the armies which are in heaven followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and pure. And out of His mouth proceedeth a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations: and He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and He treadeth the winepress of the fierceness of the wrath of God, the Almighty. And He hath on His garment and on His thigh a name written, King of King, and Lord of Lords"
My understanding of history is different. Mohammad gained power and territory by waging war across a wide range of targets. If you have anything to substantiate your above comment , I'd like to see it.Muhammad authorized war against those who persecuted and exiled Muslims.
In any war, non-combatants die. In wars of the times, women were often taken. If you have anything to substantiate your above comment , I'd like to see it.He prohibited the targeting of non-combatants including women children and the elderly.
And so you believe you understand what of this is literally physically going to happen in the future and what is literally spiritual warfare, what is symbolism, etc.?Warrior Jesus. Smiter of unbelievers.
And so you believe you understand what of this is literally physically going to happen in the future and what is literally spiritual warfare, what is symbolism, etc.?
Call it what it is! It IS terrorism!
AOG - Army of God. It was in the post right above here.What terrorist group was he associated with?
What terrorist group was he associated with?
They have stricter guidelines for terrorists when something is done in regards to the Bible.And are you saying that going into a building and killing people for the cause that killer has isn't terrorism?
AOG - Army of God. It was in the post right above here.
The two in California were not associated with any terrorist group, yet it was still terrorism....
I don't expect you to read anything. I don't read the Quran, never have. And I certainly would not try to interpret it even if I read it. Most religious books take years of study to understand and even then without good dictionaries of the original language/s used one is still going to mess things up, sometimes.It doesn't matter what I think. What matters is those people who want to demonstrate Jesus, Lord of War.
You can claim symbolism, spiritual warfare, analogy or whatever nuance you want. But literally, and without nuance, it says what it says. And while you expect me to read Muslim scripture literally and without nuance, it is only right to read Christian scripture the same way.
I fail to see how Revelation is relevant to how Christ lived and what He taught the Apostles to teach us about how to live our lives. That is what we are talking about you know. Real life, here and now, people dying by terrorism, here and now. That is what Senator King was talking about.
For me it is rather simple when I compare Jesus/Christianity to Muhammad/Islam.
Jesus' life vs Mohammad's life.
Christ-like vs Mohammad-like.
One does not even have to interpret any scriptures from the Bible or the Quran.
Maybe the answer is that Muhammad taught his followers, "Do as I say, not as I do." Is that it?
Never mind, if I couldn't make myself clear to you in my other posts then I don't care to keep trying. I'm not on a mission.So you would agree that Christians, like Christ in Revelation, should bring war to unbelievers? Or are you rejecting the characterization of Christ as a warrior in that book?
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