More scripture that support regeneration preceds faith

[AndOne]

I will premises this post by stating that when I say regeneration I believe it is the same thing as being born again. Being born is not the same thing as faith. They are two separate things and in order to have faith to be able to be saved you must be born again. This is clearly seen in Jesus' teachings in John 3:1-15.

More textual proof from scripture that this is the case can be found in Romans 5:1-2: Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

Clearly Paul is primarily talking about faith in this passage as well as the verses that follow but in verse 2 we clearly see a separate action occurring which is bringing about faith. Paul specifically states here that "through him we have also obtained access by faith into his grace..." The "through him" here is a display of the regenerative power of God which is bringing about faith!

The verse does not say that through "myself," "ourselves," "me," "my power," "my will," my belief," or anything of the sort. It says THROUGH HIM we have also obtained access by faith into his grace! Halleluiah!

 

[Skala]

I will premises this post by stating that when I say regeneration I believe it is the same thing as being born again. Being born is not the same thing as faith. They are two separate things and in order to have faith to be able to be saved you must be born again. This is clearly seen in Jesus' teachings in John 3:1-15.

More textual proof from scripture that this is the case can be found in Romans 5:1-2: Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

Clearly Paul is primarily talking about faith in this passage as well as the verses that follow but in verse 2 we clearly see a separate action occurring which is bringing about faith. Paul specifically states here that "through him we have also obtained access by faith into his grace..." The "through him" here is a display of the regenerative power of God which is bringing about faith!

The verse does not say that through "myself," "ourselves," "me," "my power," "my will," my belief," or anything of the sort. It says THROUGH HIM we have also obtained access by faith into his grace! Halleluiah!

NO! That's giving God too much credit, and me not enough credit. STOP giving God credit and praise he doesn't deserve.

 

[faither]

I will premises this post by stating that when I say regeneration I believe it is the same thing as being born again. Being born is not the same thing as faith. They are two separate things and in order to have faith to be able to be saved you must be born again. This is clearly seen in Jesus' teachings in John 3:1-15.

More textual proof from scripture that this is the case can be found in Romans 5:1-2: Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

Clearly Paul is primarily talking about faith in this passage as well as the verses that follow but in verse 2 we clearly see a separate action occurring which is bringing about faith. Paul specifically states here that "through him we have also obtained access by faith into his grace..." The "through him" here is a display of the regenerative power of God which is bringing about faith!

The verse does not say that through "myself," "ourselves," "me," "my power," "my will," my belief," or anything of the sort. It says THROUGH HIM we have also obtained access by faith into his grace! Halleluiah!

So lets put your OP to the test.

Faith and Faithing are defined specifically as "A committing of our lives to God:, and "A personal surrender of our lives to God".

So with that undeniable definition in place lets look at your timeline.

Here one is, Outside of Christ and His word. Rom 8:9, And without us doing anything, God puts His Spirit in us and seals us as His own. And then, as a result of God posessing our mortal body, He surrenders our life and will over to Himself for us. That doesn't sound perverted to You?

Thats more like an alien abduction.

 

[Skala]

So lets put your OP to the test.

Faith and Faithing are defined specifically as "A committing of our lives to God:, and "A personal surrender of our lives to God".

So with that undeniable definition in place lets look at your timeline.

Here one is, Outside of Christ and His word. Rom 8:9, And without us doing anything, God puts His Spirit in us and seals us as His own. And then, as a result of God posessing our mortal body, He surrenders our life and will over to Himself for us. That doesn't sound perverted to You?

Thats more like an alien abduction.

Actually it is defined by...the definition of the word.. Hence, "defined"

 

[nobdysfool]

So lets put your OP to the test.

Faith and Faithing are defined specifically as "A committing of our lives to God:, and "A personal surrender of our lives to God".

So with that undeniable definition in place lets look at your timeline.

Here one is, Outside of Christ and His word. Rom 8:9, And without us doing anything, God puts His Spirit in us and seals us as His own. And then, as a result of God posessing our mortal body, He surrenders our life and will over to Himself for us. That doesn't sound perverted to You?

Thats more like an alien abduction.

Seeing that Calvinism does not teach anywhere that God possesses our mortal bodies and does things for us, your entire question is summed up in one word: foolish.

You don't understand anything about what Calvinism teaches regarding regeneration and faith, that much is glaringly obvious.

Next....

 

[faither]

Seeing that Calvinism does not teach anywhere that God possesses our mortal bodies and does things for us, your entire question is summed up in one word: foolish.

You don't understand anything about what Calvinism teaches regarding regeneration and faith, that much is glaringly obvious.

Next....

The timeline that the OP built its declaration on demands God be in complete posession. Not my understanding you deemed foolish, but the OP.

And your correct, i know nothing about calvinism, and in my heart i know thats a good thing. Not a requirement for the narrow path to know anything about the paralell paths around it.